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Question: What should the legal age for the purchase of tobacco products be?
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Tobacco products should be banned.
 
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BRTD
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« on: June 03, 2015, 10:13:40 AM »

Ban tobacco and legalize marijuana for 18 and up.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,302
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2015, 10:16:59 AM »

The difference between alcohol and marijuana and tobacco is quite clear:

Seriously this couldn't break down any simpler:

Good:


Good:


Utterly finksing disgusting worthless garbage:

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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,302
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2015, 11:14:58 PM »

The difference between alcohol and marijuana and tobacco is quite clear:

Seriously this couldn't break down any simpler:

Good:


Good:


Utterly finksing disgusting worthless garbage:

You're going to have liver failure one day.

Seriously, I don't mean that maliciously. You seem to be completely unaware of the fact that alcohol is very, very bad for you, and if you support a prohibition on cigarettes than it would be very hypocritical to not support a ban on alcohol.

But alcohol is fun to use and tobacco isn't. All tobacco does is make you cough and smell bad.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,302
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2015, 08:30:29 AM »

"I don't see the appeal of it, so it should be banned!"

I'm surprised BRTD isn't saying heavy metal should be banned.

Obviously banning heavy metal would be quite problematic, but so is the music itself with the frequent promotion of Neo-Nazism and brutal misogyny, and in causing teen suicides.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
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Posts: 113,302
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2015, 12:13:58 AM »

"I don't see the appeal of it, so it should be banned!"

I'm surprised BRTD isn't saying heavy metal should be banned.

Obviously banning heavy metal would be quite problematic, but so is the music itself with the frequent promotion of Neo-Nazism and brutal misogyny, and in causing teen suicides.

You're a punk fan right? There is (or at least was) a very large neo-Nazi punk movement which at its peak was far more influential than National Socialist Black Metal. The National Front (UK) had its own Punk youth organisation. Skrewdriver and other such punk bands fronted the far-right activist movement 'Rock Against Communism'.

My point is we can't condemn entire genres because of a minority of loathesome performers. I don't know jack about metal, but even a casual glance at Wikipedia tells me that National Socialist Black metallists have been condemned by a large amount of Death metallers.

I don't listen to that kind of punk. The "incredibly specific types of post-punk music" I listen to are both listened to and played by almost exclusively by progressive SJW types.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,302
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2015, 12:24:28 AM »

I wouldn't ban cigarettes, but I would like to make buying them more effortful - for example, by keeping tobacco products out of view in stores and contained in plain packaging, banning advertising entirely, limiting the amount that can be bought in one transaction, banning smoking in or near public places - including parks and sidewalks - and prohibiting the sale of pre-rolled cigarettes. There's no way to reduce the massive burden of chronic disease associated with long-term tobacco use without infringing on people's rights in ways that will make most of us pretty uncomfortable.
Couldn't some of the billions smokers pay in taxes go towards that?  Where does that money go anyway? 

Who cares, right?  It's just poor people addicted to drugs paying the tax, not a group a lot of people care about.

Well seeing as how they're paying the tax by complete choice...
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,302
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2015, 12:39:12 AM »

And on the subject of tobacco and progressive liberal hardcore bands, here's some lyrics from one:

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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
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Posts: 113,302
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2015, 12:15:30 AM »

And on the subject of tobacco and progressive liberal hardcore bands, here's some lyrics from one:

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I miss when lyrics had nuance and rhymed.

Well considering this is what the song sounds like you can see that it matters little if they rhymed.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,302
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2015, 09:41:40 AM »

"I don't see the appeal of it, so it should be banned!"

I'm surprised BRTD isn't saying heavy metal should be banned.

Obviously banning heavy metal would be quite problematic, but so is the music itself with the frequent promotion of Neo-Nazism and brutal misogyny, and in causing teen suicides.

My god. You've LITERALLY gone to Jerry Falwell levels of fantasia in your demonizing heavy metal.

LOL. I think it's safe to say if he knew of it while he was alive Falwell would not have approved of SJW hardcore, or anything that met the standard of "all liberal, all the time".
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