Evangelicals without Standards

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Go back and re-read this thread from the top, substituting some ethnicity or other religion in place of all the synonyms for evangelical/Christian/religious right, etc.

Pretty shocking, huh?

Should it be so broadly acceptable to stereotype and generalize this way about *any* group of people?

I'm an evangelical Christian and I'm not offended.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The idea that it makes sense for a Christian to ally with an utterly immoral evil person who consistently lies because he has promised to give you favours is pretty dumb.

I'll also note that people like Fuzzy Bear are inventing these excuses now because they have to. He was an enthusiastic Trump supporter until it became uncomfortable. Trumpists have always had excuses - they used to claim they were small government conservatives. They might claim they're conservative evangelicals who care about family values. But it's clear at this point that they don't genuinely believe in any of these things. They mostly hate blacks, women and foreigners and vary in the degree to which they can couch that sentiment in more acceptable language.

I've never claimed to be a small government conservative.  I've claimed that there was a large "big government" conservative contingent in the GOP that was unrepresented until Trump came along.

Then again, when it comes to me, you're not interested in facts.

That part wasn't directed at you but at Trumpists in general. You're all deplorable in different ways. But it's telling that you decided to misinterpret that rather than attempt to defend yourself.

You're a false Christian and I'd guess that it would be painful for you to confront that fact.

Yes, I think these lyrics are quite fitting again:

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There's a certain segment of the Democratic Party that thinks that religion as a whole is bad, that any hint of Christian-inspired morality, policy, symbolism, language, etc. in American life needs to be purged, and that those who believe in Christianity are foolish.  At least, that's the perception of most Christians on the right.  And let's be fair, there's definitely something to it.

Lately there's been a rise in churches that pander to liberal youth by saying, "we're the cool church.  We're the tolerant church.  Come to us if you're tired of the Republicans in your church."  And you go there and every sermon will be about how God loves whatever minority/LGBT group, or weed.  The two things liberal millennials care about.  It's pretty lame, what's supposed to be a completely separate and very important part of your life (and it is to me), has just become, for a lot of left-leaning youth, just another extension of their oh-so-important political identity.  They can't read the new testament without thinking about how it relates to the 2016 election or whatever.

It's a shame.

Uh, speaking as someone who attends probably exactly the type of church you're talking about, you understand nothing about it aside from being liberal. But Jesus Christ is always first and foremost. We don't live our hands in worship of progressive values.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Cant we all just agree that neither major party candidate is a of the moral standard needed to hold the highest office in the land?

No. Because that's pretending they're equal, and they're not.

Clinton is a typical, perhaps even excellent, establishment politician.

Trump is an exceptionally despicable and incompetent con-man.

Yes, this sort of false equivalency needs to stop. Hillary didn't follow all regulations for email usage amongst government employees, Trump has sexually molested women and is openly proud and has bragged about that.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Yeah, and if the best defense of Trump one can make more or less amounts to "Trump is a terrible human being, but he's willing to give us our thirty pieces of silver", well...

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

No matter your creed, I think we can all agree that sexual assault is wrong, that stealing from your employees is wrong, and that inciting racial hatred is wrong.

And that scamming vulnerable people with bullsh!t promises is wrong.