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Question: Should the government fund absolutely nothing besides the military?
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BRTD
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« on: June 16, 2007, 01:28:44 PM »

No.

I wonder if who proposed this (who shall remain nameless), realizes how absolutely unfeasible and contradictory with many of his other views this "plan" is. Actually, no, he doesn't.
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BRTD
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2007, 05:26:19 PM »

Nowhere does it say anything about medicare/medicaid, social security, welfare, corporate welfare or foreign aid.

It does mention things other than the military though.
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2007, 05:42:29 PM »

And the person I'm referring to said the government shouldn't even fund them, and should not pay for anything at all except the military.
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BRTD
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2007, 11:57:50 PM »

The whole problem with this idea is that it's simply impossible. You can't have the government work only as a bank for the military. First, where does the government come from? Someone has to fund elections, and it's pretty obvious why privatized elections won't work. Those elected officials need salaries, as do their staffs. DWTL said we should privatize the police force, yet he gave no example of how to do this (he simply said that "it's probably possible to work out some way", but I think if you support an idea, you should have a plan for it if you think it's such a valid idea and a much better way of doing things than the current situation). Well do you privatize courts as well to try offenders? I don't need to explain the flaws in that idea. DWTL's legal system won't be too effective at shutting down abortion providers like he wants.

How about border security? Yes, you can have the military guard the border, but most such people want a fence too. Well, where is the money for this fence going to come from? And how about investigating illegals in the country and businesses that hire them? You don't do that with the military, plus you need some database of citizens to know who's illegal and who's not, that requires funding to keep track of those things. Are you going to abolish the DMV and driver's licenses? It's pretty obvious why THAT is a bad idea.

And quite frankly, why do you even need a military if you're going to abolish anything else? What's to defend? You're basically establishing anarcho-capitalism. If that's what you want fine, but no military exists in such a society, well it does but it's privatized too.

Yes, conservatives do tend to support cuts in spending to government programs, and increase in military spending, so the idea of abolishing all government spending except the military would be the most extreme proposal as such. But I've heard no conservative except DWTL call for it, and the reason is pretty simple: Because it's not a viable or logical position. The only reason one would take it is out of an attempt to take the most extreme right wing positions possible on every issue, not because they generally see conservative ideas as the best plan for society.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,435
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2007, 12:33:04 PM »

In an ideal society? Of course
In America? No
Was my statement taken out of a context b/c BRTD can't read? Yes

You still have yet to explain how this "ideal society" is going to function with the issues I outlined above, and why in the military is even necessary in this society. And aren't you taking into account that if the military is the ONLY government institution, then you've basically established a military regime ala Burma?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,435
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2007, 12:32:38 PM »

I'm surprised you don't support privatizing the postal service like most libertarians do.
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