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« on: April 24, 2024, 12:26:54 PM »

https://news.wttw.com/2024/04/13/illinois-lawmakers-cannabis-industry-call-ban-delta-8-and-other-psychoactive-hemp

Of course the real reason for this is the cannabis industry sucks like any big business and wants to eliminate any competition.

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“It is deeply disheartening and, frankly, a betrayal by the state to allow these shops to pop up and call themselves dispensaries,” Ron Miller, a co-owner of his family-run Navada Labs and BLYSS Dispensary in Mt. Vernon, said at a Capitol news conference Thursday.
Cry me a f[inks]ing river. Sounds like Ron Miller is just a moron businessman who probably makes sh!t product.

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And for the industry’s lead lobbying group, the Cannabis Business Association of Illinois, delta-8 represents other threats, including continued reports of Americans getting sick after consuming unregulated products, and the growing efforts to market delta-8 to young people.
THIS IS LITERAL REEFER MADNESS. THIS IS THE EXACT SAME STUPID PROPAGANDA SH!T PEOPLE SAID ABOUT WEED YOU WORTHLESS F[INKS]ING IMBECILES.

Luckily this will NOT happen in Minnesota which already has a pretty enshrined law that will allow for such products to continue to be sold in record stores, mall kiosks, gas stations, liquor stores and bars and a strong lobby to keep it in place.
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2024, 12:30:31 PM »

MJ is legal, why would anyone want that trash?
It's not trash. It works just as well. And because buying it is way more convenient. Dispensaries are a f[inks]ing pain to deal with, buying this is just as easy as buying alcohol.

And if it really was trash that absolutely no one would want to buy...well then what's the point of banning it? No one would buy it, so stores would stop selling it, and it would all become moot.
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2024, 12:31:01 PM »

I am not for a ban, but if the state legalized real pot, no reason to use D8s. I have more of a problem with states that have not legalized pot trying to ban D8/D9.
I already explained above why. D8 also has some uses where it works better than D9, like mixed with CBN for sleep products.

But again why not just let the market decide? If there was no reason to use it, then no one would buy it, and then no one would sell it.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2024, 12:40:10 PM »

MJ is legal, why would anyone want that trash?
It's not trash. It works just as well. And because buying it is way more convenient. Dispensaries are a f[inks]ing pain to deal with, buying this is just as easy as buying alcohol.

And if it really was trash that absolutely no one would want to buy...well then what's the point of banning it? No one would buy it, so stores would stop selling it, and it would all become moot.

It’s trash designed to give lower class clientele an inferior product.
How is it inferior? It has the exact same effect as comparable size D9 doses whenever I've used it. The only "inferior" thing would be that the dosage needed is higher but it's also sold in comparable dosages anyway, a D8 gummy is going to be about 15mg as opposed to a 5mg D9, so there's no difference in effect, a gummy is a gummy.
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2024, 01:34:35 PM »

I’m all for legal weed/ THC, but Delta-8 needs to be safely regulated in the same way as Delta-9 products. The problem with the current situation in most states is that Delta-8 was basically only accidentally legalized (even in states where regular old weed is still illegal) so it’s the Wild West when it comes to selling the stuff.
A ban is going well beyond simple regulation.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2024, 09:53:47 PM »

the Illinois voter is exactly as smart as the posters in this thread it seems
Yes it's interesting that no one has a response to the point that the market can handle this easily. If this stuff is really so bad and there's no reason to use it if weed is fully legal, then obviously no one would buy it. And if no one is buying it, why would any place bother to sell it?
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2024, 05:06:37 PM »
« Edited: April 25, 2024, 05:14:42 PM by I spent the winter writing songs about getting better »

Good. One well regulated, tested and licensed dispensary is better than 10 corner smoke shops any day.
Do you seriously think I'm going to drop dead or something because of using product from the (well over) 10 such shops in my neighborhood (although they're not really smoke shops, just places that sell THC, ranging from also record stores, coffee shops and even a hair salon)? And if not, what's the problem? What harm are they causing?

And would you seriously buy from such a place over said shops if (like in Minnesota currently) their prices were at least 5x as much?

I don't know if the prices in Illinois are that high, but they are still infamously quite expensive. Hence one reason why people are buying this, it's way cheaper.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2024, 11:56:34 PM »

Good. One well regulated, tested and licensed dispensary is better than 10 corner smoke shops any day.
Do you seriously think I'm going to drop dead or something because of using product from the (well over) 10 such shops in my neighborhood (although they're not really smoke shops, just places that sell THC, ranging from also record stores, coffee shops and even a hair salon)? And if not, what's the problem? What harm are they causing?

And would you seriously buy from such a place over said shops if (like in Minnesota currently) their prices were at least 5x as much?

I don't know if the prices in Illinois are that high, but they are still infamously quite expensive. Hence one reason why people are buying this, it's way cheaper.

Nope. Never said that. You extrapolate to things someone never said, and then roll /w it.
The extrapolation is just trying to figure out the logic here. And besides even if that statement is true, why is a ban needed? Why not just let the market handle it if people have no reason to buy such things from those smoke shops? Because if everyone stopped buying then nowhere would sell it.
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