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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« on: July 04, 2008, 08:44:14 PM »

Nationalism is stupid, but the 4th of July is cool because the fireworks look cool and D4 plays every year which is awesome. So I agree with Tweed, but still greatly enjoy the day. Off to see D4!

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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2008, 10:28:14 AM »

Well, the "greatest country on Earth" crap does piss me off.

Well, you can admit that the fundamental idea of the United States of America is great. The one proud thing about America is that it has managed to sustain freedom and remains one of the most democratic and free nations in the world. As many problems as there are in America, we are still undoubtedly quite great. I agree that our arrogance is unjustified, although I believe that the crazy nationalism has more to do with a small minority of people.

Now this stuff does annoy me. At this point in history there are many countries (like the whole of Europe other than some of the Ex-Soviet states and satellities) which have similiar or even more open instutions than exists presently in the United States. I don't believe at this point the United States has a greater degree of freedom (and what does that mean, anyway?) than the Republic of Ireland does.

While I agree with Tweed this statement is incorrect since the US does not have a mechanism for banning movies and video games like Ireland does (no, the NC-17 rating is not banning so shut with your uninformed crap on that.)
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,326
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E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2008, 04:33:18 AM »

Well, the "greatest country on Earth" crap does piss me off.

Well, you can admit that the fundamental idea of the United States of America is great. The one proud thing about America is that it has managed to sustain freedom and remains one of the most democratic and free nations in the world. As many problems as there are in America, we are still undoubtedly quite great. I agree that our arrogance is unjustified, although I believe that the crazy nationalism has more to do with a small minority of people.

Now this stuff does annoy me. At this point in history there are many countries (like the whole of Europe other than some of the Ex-Soviet states and satellities) which have similiar or even more open instutions than exists presently in the United States. I don't believe at this point the United States has a greater degree of freedom (and what does that mean, anyway?) than the Republic of Ireland does.

While I agree with Tweed this statement is incorrect since the US does not have a mechanism for banning movies and video games like Ireland does (no, the NC-17 rating is not banning so shut with your uninformed crap on that.)

You're an idiot.

No argument = resort to ad hominem.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,326
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E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2008, 04:46:07 AM »

Then ignore the NC-17 thing and focus on the rest of my point.
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BRTD
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2008, 01:13:41 PM »

Then ignore the NC-17 thing and focus on the rest of my point.

What exactly was the rest of your point? Ireland has banned 1 videogame and is therefore evil?

Yes basically. Even one is far too many, even if it's a sequal to a crappy game that's no doubt crappy itself.

http://www.imdb.com/List?certificates=Ireland:(Banned)&&heading=14;Ireland:(Banned)

In case you haven't noticed the wear-it-on-your-sleave, jingoistic sense of national superiority which is so often associated with some Amercians is oft found to be less than endearing outside the States.

WTF? Did you read the rest of my posts in this thread? Did you see that poster I posted on the first page?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,326
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2008, 01:35:01 PM »

Then ignore the NC-17 thing and focus on the rest of my point.

What exactly was the rest of your point? Ireland has banned 1 videogame and is therefore evil?

Yes basically. Even one is far too many, even if it's a sequal to a crappy game that's no doubt crappy itself.

http://www.imdb.com/List?certificates=Ireland:(Banned)&&heading=14;Ireland:(Banned)

I see, so banning 1 video game makes us evil but yet you'll stand over the US as an unblemished record for free expression?

No, but I've simply pointed out things are never banned here. There's an advantage.

FTR, I disagree with banning the game (as I've explained before), but I respect that the decision was a considered one and made out of the best of intentions. To label the country 'evil' though is patently ridiculous.

What that's f**king ridiculous. You might as well say the same thing about Iran banning material!

Banning media is NEVER acceptable. Period, end of story, and thus it should never be respected or accepted. It is always evil and a wrong thing to do.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,326
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2008, 11:44:49 AM »

Judith Miller? That right wing hack who was trying to defend Karl Rove and Lewis Libby? haha.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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Posts: 113,326
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2008, 12:02:59 PM »

By "censor", I'm referring to baning such as on Manhunt 2, which Jas quasi-defended.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
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Posts: 113,326
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2008, 12:08:48 PM »

The point is they're to different things and that's not what I was talking about in "media" freedom. I was talking only about banning media, period, nothing more. And just saying that I don't give a sh!t what happens to Judith Miller who is a worthless whore. I actually laughed when she got locked up.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
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Posts: 113,326
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2008, 12:12:02 PM »

They're different because that wasn't the topic for discussion!! Geez!
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