California independence updates

[Fusionmunster]

In the far-fetched scenario that the hypothetical proposition in question even makes it on the ballot, I would be absolutely astonished if it doesn't go down in a historic landslide. 

Brexit was supposed to be hypothetical, and when it wasn't (Thanks Cameron), it was supposed to go up in smoke...neither happened.

Enough trump failures, enough far-right agenda advancing at the cost of Californian values, enough polarization in general, enough people not caring jack about the consequences and this could very well gain traction AND pass.

Highly improbable [as in, another attempt by SNP to take Scotland out of the UK is more likely], but not impossible.

Exactly.  Lets not dismiss this so soon.  No one expected the U.S.S.R. to collapse either.  But it happened.

The U.S.S.R consisted of countries with different languages and cultures that had existed before Russia forcibly incorporated them. Independence movements in the USA that spring up everytime democrats or republicans(Texas) loose a presidential election is not comparable.

[Fusionmunster]

Uh... even in California, this would lose 70%-30%. It might even provide a rally round the flag effect for Trump in 2020 and get him to 40% in the state.

After two years of Worst Trump (or even Pretty Bad Trump) this could be far closer than anyone thinks right now. Especially if he's fighting with Silicon Valley.  A hypothetical liberal-libertarian anti-Trump alliance could have real legs in CA.

Every time the Dems lose an election, Californian independence gets brought up. Every time Republicans lose an election, Texan independence gets brought up. The other 48 states wish California and Texas would get over themselves.

[Fusionmunster]

Uh... even in California, this would lose 70%-30%. It might even provide a rally round the flag effect for Trump in 2020 and get him to 40% in the state.

After two years of Worst Trump (or even Pretty Bad Trump) this could be far closer than anyone thinks right now. Especially if he's fighting with Silicon Valley.  A hypothetical liberal-libertarian anti-Trump alliance could have real legs in CA.

Every time the Dems lose an election, Californian independence gets brought up. Every time Republicans lose an election, Texan independence gets brought up. The other 48 states wish California and Texas would get over themselves.

Maybe those other 48 states should give California a few more Senators.

That's not how it works sadly. If California feels underrepresented, they could split into multiple states to better represent they're regional interests however.