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President Johnson
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« on: June 16, 2016, 01:22:32 PM »

Tell me again how Little Donny here is actually a political mastermind.

How? He knocked out 16 other candidates without ever running seriously for anything. And he will also knock out the Hill.

I just can't wait to see all the media hacks reacting on the night of November 8, when it is announces that the 45th President's name will be Donald John Trump.
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President Johnson
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2016, 01:53:57 PM »

Tell me again how Little Donny here is actually a political mastermind.

How? He knocked out 16 other candidates without ever running seriously for anything. And he will also knock out the Hill.

I just can't wait to see all the media hacks reacting on the night of November 8, when it is announces that the 45th President's name will be Donald John Trump.

Again with saying beating 16 candidates is a strength--this wasn't an elimination tournament where you go one on one--you had 16 candidates saying the same thing, gathering a total of 60% of the vote, where Trump running essentially on the outsider platform got 40%. Had this been a two way race it's unlikely he would've been nominated, similarly to how Sanders would've very likely been nominated if he had 16 Dem opponents.

If you add up the votes of all outsiders (Rafael and Ben), it's easily over 50%. What do you think against which candidate TRUMP would have lost a two-way race? Mr. Low Energy? Keep also in mind that Big Don got more votes than anyone else in the GOP primary race. That's stunning for someone who never ran for office, didn't have a strong ground operation and spent almost nothing while others wasted millions of dollars and still got crushed.
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President Johnson
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2016, 02:14:25 PM »

I don't understand why you guys keep bringing up Trump's primary performance. Winning a GOP primary is not the same as winning a general election. No matter how many times you guys bring this up, it's never going to be a valid argument for his GE prospects.

So I have to ask, why are you so confident in Trump winning when he has almost always been losing to Clinton in the polls? He only has a few small leads here and there, with quite a bit of his losing polls being large margin losses to Clinton. This is not what a winner's campaign looks like. Do you honestly think Trump's behavior in 2016 is going to help him? It's clearly damaging him badly.

It is possible to support Trump and still be skeptical of his chances in November. There is really no data right now, and never has been enough data to justify such confidence.

It's June right now and a lot more has to come. In most polls, the Hill barely beats TRUMP and she's even in trouble in some states like Florida, Pennsylvania (!), Oregon and Ohio.

TRUMP isn't a traditional Republican candidate. He has appeal to independents and former non-voters and I'm sure we will pick up lots of votes from Bernard's supporters. And he's setting the topics. All Hillary is doing now, is reacting. She's flawed by all the scandals and her poor image and actually a weak candidate. Some good points are made in this video. (Not a pro-Trump-video).
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