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IceSpear
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« on: July 11, 2016, 04:43:45 PM »

WTF?! This completely came out of nowhere! I can't wait to see the story behind this...

But guys, this isn't some Bob Kerrey situation. Bayh is still very popular, has a huge war chest, and he almost certainly would not have entered unless private polling showed him either ahead or very competitive. This is a major coup for Dems. In fact, if Stutzman was the nominee I'd actually call this likely D, but since it's Young I'll say toss up for now.

Also, to henster, good job posting about something other than Hillary!
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2016, 04:50:03 PM »

Wait... Didn't the primary already happen? How is this possible?

What the actual  is happening.
Look a few posts above, I asked the same question. Basically, until July 15, Indiana legally allows parties to change their nominee.

Damn that's such garbage. So someone who wasn't even voted on by his party just gets to be the nominee two months after they chose a nominee. So corrupt, filing deadlines and primaries don't matter I guess. Screw democracy, I'll just use my power and money to lobby the nominee out so I can be the nominee and the other guy just exits like a submissive weakling, all because he couldn't decide on time or because he wanted a convenient time. We might as well be returning to smoke filled rooms.

F*** Indiana if they elect this man.

Republicans are considering doing the same thing with Pence, so fair is fair. Tongue
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2016, 07:29:49 PM »

Republicans are considering doing the same thing with Pence, so fair is fair. Tongue
No, it's not the same thing. Pence may get picked as Trump's running mate, meaning he has to be off the ballot for governor, meaning someone else has to replace him.

^^^

I don't see how that changes the principle of it. Indiana selected Mike Pence to be the Republican nominee, and he will be ditching the post to further his own ambitions rather than face a tough re-election fight, and he will be replaced by someone nobody voted for.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2016, 07:30:20 PM »

Lean r at this point people often overestimate names from the past

This assumes Bayh was flying blind going into this. That strikes me as extraordinarily unlikely, considering this is Evan Bayh we're talking about.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2016, 10:32:54 PM »


Again guys...this is Evan Bayh. He's not going to jump into a lean R/likely R race for funsies. The Republicans underestimating him are in for a rude awakening.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2016, 07:38:53 AM »


Wow, if true this becomes gain #3 (along with Illinois and Wisconsin, naturally). Only would need one of Arizona, Florida, New Hampshire, Ohio, or Pennsylvania. Not an automatic, but doable.

I'd rank our possible pick ups as:

1. IL
2. WI
3. IN
4. NH
5. OH
6. AZ
7. FL
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8. PA (Toomey was beatable, but not with McGintey)
9. NC (best case, the Pubs have to waste some money in September/October)


Toomey would lose in a wave. He can survive a small to moderate Clinton win, but not a large one.
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