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Cranberry
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« on: September 11, 2014, 09:58:04 AM »

I am not saying outright no before I do not know the costs of this... But they will likely be astronomic, as Yankee said... I like the programs (but the tens of thousands of agencies created, and the way they at created - you do like to write that as long as possible and as complicated as possible don't you? Tongue), given they are a bit idealistic, but this is Atlasia... But I will have to ask the questions Lumine and Yankee asked too - will we be able to fund this in any way so we do not loose any more jobs in the process?
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2014, 12:44:44 PM »

Since you all agreed that the program as such is far too costly, which I agree with of course, maybe we should start asking which parts of the bill are affordable while creating or helping to create a certain amount of time. Alas, I hope what I produce in the following is not complete crap:

- Clause 2 establishes a fund, tasks the Regional Governments with hiring unemployed, and provide serviced
- Clause 3 outlines the nature and the administration of the fund
- Clause 4 establishes a great deal of bureaucracy, excessively deals with how these are structured, but gives no details how these administrations create or help to create jobs for the unemployed

Given that, I would propose striking clause 4 entirely, as in my opinion it just unnecessarily complicates the whole bill to the extremes while not really producing any results out of this. I know Senator TNF loves precise details on how many thirds of an agency are chosen by the way a jury is chosen, but in my opinion the clause not really gives anything to the bill, I am sorry.
Clause Two and Three are sensible, however I would as of now propose the following: Keep clause 2 and 3 more or less the same, but restricted to just outlining the JGF; while we strike clause 4 and add instead a section outlining more or less precise details on how we actually create or help create jobs, including the propositions already named herein, including educations, government jobs, trainings and so on and so forth.
Hence, I would like to propose the following amendment:

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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2014, 01:54:40 PM »


Thank you, Senator.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2014, 05:03:49 AM »

I have seen Senator Cynic's bill; and I guess we could include it in this bill, making it a kind of omnibus bill for job creation and solving the unemployment problem? Currently, the bill just includes the establishment of a fund; and from here on we could start working collecting individual measures and including them into the bill. I thought this would be a sensible approach to it?
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2014, 08:22:29 AM »

I guess we could use this bill as good as any, for the purpose of collecting as many ideas to combat unemployment as possible. Your bill surely is a great idea, and since you said you were not opposed, we could use this as the first of those ideas. Provided, if the bill fails, or appears to fail, in the end, we can still split it up and pass the programs that would gave a chance to pass?
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2014, 08:50:29 AM »

Aye
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