Cabinet Reform Amendment (Failed)

[Cranberry]

I will definetely not support adding the Game Moderator to the cabinet. If we want that position to have some true independence and credibility, we can in no way make him a cabinet position. If any change here, I would go the other way, rather than having him appointed by the President, being approved by the Senate without Presidential appointment.

It's certainly sensible to order this all in one part, though I believe Clause 2 needs to be amended as it talks about a "Departement of Federal Elections" which is neither created nor tasked with anything the clause above, so legally does not exist, if I am thinking this correctly.

I would prefer Internal and External Affairs to State and Interior, but that is I guess the smallest question, and one of personal taste.

[Cranberry]

I will definetely not support adding the Game Moderator to the cabinet. If we want that position to have some true independence and credibility, we can in no way make him a cabinet position. If any change here, I would go the other way, rather than having him appointed by the President, being approved by the Senate without Presidential appointment.

It's certainly sensible to order this all in one part, though I believe Clause 2 needs to be amended as it talks about a "Departement of Federal Elections" which is neither created nor tasked with anything the clause above, so legally does not exist, if I am thinking this correctly.

I would prefer Internal and External Affairs to State and Interior, but that is I guess the smallest question, and one of personal taste.

What do you mean with "presidential appointment", Cranberry? I may have misunderstood your argument here, but the current system has the President nominate a GM that the Senate has to approve, which I believe is the best mechanism available. I understand the concerns related to the Game Moderator and I would be happy to see this amended so he is out of the cabinet and not subordinated to the President (it should be noted I defended the role of the Senate in dismissing a Game Moderator even before we had the October conflict), remember that is just an early idea.

This was just a proposal of what I would support before I supported having the GM subordinated to the President, in the sense that not the President would appoint the GM, but rather an applicant would apply to the Speaker, with the same procedure afterwards. It's more a consideration than a serious proposal, and you don't need to think about it.
It's good that you are willing to have the GM striken out of the cabinet.

[Cranberry]

Why so, Senator?

[Cranberry]

Aye

I have a difficult balancing act here since I am indeed a member of the administration, but I'm wondering why we need this bill. The SoIA's duties are already pretty well outlined inegiation. And while I've gone along with the president's request that I refer to myself as Secretary of the Interior, truth be told, I think "Internal Affairs" makes more sense...

The idea is I guess that it is organized in an own section in a main part of the constitution, not in some amendment further down.
Anyway, I prefer Internal/External Affairs as well, and I'll present an amendment to change it to that later.

[Cranberry]

AYE

[Cranberry]

I have no real problem against 3/5.

[Cranberry]

Motion for a final vote.

Motion seconded, I guess

[Cranberry]

AYE