Rand Paul blames Garner's death on cigarette taxes

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Taxes are not to blame for everything that goes wrong in the world. Rand Paul is incredibly stupid.

Democrats are so adorable. The drug war has failed but the creation of black markets for cigarettes is a great idea.

America is in awe of such intelligence.

[AggregateDemand]

People saying "not wrong." Can you envision a world where NY has a $5.85 tax on cigarettes, and police enforce that law without using violence or killing people who break it? Yes? The reason Paul is wrong is because he's focusing on the tax, not the violence.

All laws are enforced with violence. Pretending otherwise is the lie people tell themselves so they can sleep at night. The business end of every law is financial ruination, life in a cage, or death. Rand Paul understands the situation, and he laments the careless creation of a black market with clumsy tax policy.

Telling libertarian factions that you don't understand the problem is irrelevant. Creating complex protocols is not going to save lives, it will only delay the inevitable conflict, especially in this instance. If you want to save lives, don't create black markets with stupid laws. Isn't this the basica tenet of the anti-drug-war movement?

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Oh really? How badly were you tased or choked the last time you were stopped for speeding?

What happens if I refuse to comply with the law governing traffic tickets? What happens if I refuse to comply with the law suspending my drivers license? What happens if I refuse to be taken into custody? They can only pile on infractions and crimes, until they finally let the attack dogs off the hook to make someone comply.

Wasn't Garner arrested 31 times? Idjits think the problem will be solved if we write a law so that chokeholds start after 32 arrests. People marching on the police when they should be marching on city hall and the state capitol.

Humanity is buried under so many layers of stupid, it's amazing the average person makes it to 80 before they drop dead.

[AggregateDemand]

Oh really? How badly were you tased or choked the last time you were stopped for speeding?

What happens if I refuse to comply with the law governing traffic tickets? What happens if I refuse to comply with the law suspending my drivers license? What happens if I refuse to be taken into custody? They can only pile on infractions and crimes, until they finally let the attack dogs off the hook to make someone comply.

So you concede I'm correct?

If voluntary compliance is a viable model, why do you need ticketing authorities? You're creating the illusion of civility to reassure yourself that law enforcement doesn't stray into a dubious area in human ethics.

Giving someone multiple chances to comply voluntarily is reasonable, but people can't pee their pants in fear when police finally use the business end of the law after 30 prior arrests.

If you're not willing to put someone in a chokehold for selling loose cigarettes then don't write a law that says selling loose cigarettes is illegal and don't tax cigarettes to the point that black markets flourish.