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Mr. Morden
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« on: May 29, 2011, 03:00:33 AM »

Not as epic as Grassley's tweets.  PantsBurnLegWound.
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2011, 05:06:20 PM »

I would really love to hear Time Kaine and Ed Rendell (and other Dems calling on Weiner to resign) explain why Bill Clinton shouldn't have resigned over his behavior.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2011, 07:19:53 AM »
« Edited: June 09, 2011, 07:38:18 AM by Mr. Morden »

I would really love to hear Time Kaine and Ed Rendell (and other Dems calling on Weiner to resign) explain why Bill Clinton shouldn't have resigned over his behavior.


The reason Bill Clinton didn't need to resign, even though Al Gore really wanted him to, was because he was El Presidente, and nothing short of impeachment would remove him from office.  

Weiner doesn't have the power of the Chief Executive and can maybe face some Congressional penalties, so fighting and staying in the HOR will be tough if he faces the sanctions.  He might decide it is better to be a wealthy lobbyist than a HOR.  

Well of course the reason he didn't resign is because he didn't have to.  That's why I said "should".

EDIT: I mean, look, these are the actual words used by Tim Kaine, regarding Weiner:

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If that's what Kaine thinks, then was he also in favor of Clinton resigning back in 1998?
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2011, 09:43:05 PM »

I would really love to hear Time Kaine and Ed Rendell (and other Dems calling on Weiner to resign) explain why Bill Clinton shouldn't have resigned over his behavior.


The reason Bill Clinton didn't need to resign, even though Al Gore really wanted him to, was because he was El Presidente, and nothing short of impeachment would remove him from office.  

Weiner doesn't have the power of the Chief Executive and can maybe face some Congressional penalties, so fighting and staying in the HOR will be tough if he faces the sanctions.  He might decide it is better to be a wealthy lobbyist than a HOR.  

Well of course the reason he didn't resign is because he didn't have to.  That's why I said "should".

EDIT: I mean, look, these are the actual words used by Tim Kaine, regarding Weiner:

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If that's what Kaine thinks, then was he also in favor of Clinton resigning back in 1998?


the difference between then and now is that Kaine is now a National figure for the DNC and has to protect the Dem Congress seats and national Democrats without sideshows.  Back then he was a nobody just trying to move up the ladder and keep his head down.  Sure maybe Clinton should have resigned but that would have been historically epic and may have done more damage to Democrats image (like Nixon resigning) but Clinton stayed and now has high approvals. 

Again, that's not what I mean.  I'm sorry for being less than clear.  Tongue

You're talking about the actual reasons for folks like Kaine and Rendell having different reactions to this than to Clinton.  But that's obvious.  The *actual* reason is political expediency.  I'm talking about their *stated* reasons for asking Weiner to resign.  The stated reasons don't make any sense, and I was just musing that it would be fun if a reporter called them on it.  This column might explain what I mean better than how I've said it:

http://www.slate.com/id/2296605/
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