Pres. Obama Planning Executive Order on Immigration

[Free Bird]

That made me lose quite a bit of respect for Obama.  If you're going to take action because you think it's the right thing to do, holding off until you're in the safe zone from political retribution is a pretty scummy way of doing it.  So what's the reason for immigration change?  He's lost any ability to effectively advocate for his position by pushing off past November.

[Free Bird]

Obama needs to stop using executive orders left and right, and I have no respect for you if you think he can just continuously disregard congress like this

[Free Bird]

Obama needs to stop using executive orders left and right, and I have no respect for you if you think he can just continuously disregard congress like this

STFU, Obama has only issued 182 executive orders, the only guys who have used less(since JFK) is Bush and Ford.

And Congress had their chance to deal with immigration and decided to punt it back to Obama.

It's not the amount of executive orders that matters, its the content of those executive orders.

And the fact that he is disregarding congress by doing all these orders to get his way. Don't like my idea? EXECUTIVE ORDER TIME.

[Free Bird]

Obama needs to stop using executive orders left and right, and I have no respect for you if you think he can just continuously disregard congress like this

STFU, Obama has only issued 182 executive orders, the only guys who have used less(since JFK) is Bush and Ford.

And Congress had their chance to deal with immigration and decided to punt it back to Obama.

It's not the amount of executive orders that matters, its the content of those executive orders.

And the fact that he is disregarding congress by doing all these orders to get his way. Don't like my idea? EXECUTIVE ORDER TIME.

What are you talking about? The only reason why Obama has had to go this route is because Congress has no intention of governing. Just look at the border crisis, Obama is using this route because the clowns on the right can't even get enough GOP votes for their own border bill and Boehner just punted the issue back to Obama.

There is a reason why no one outside of the people on the right don't by into the Obama is tyrant nonsense, the issue is an inept GOP controlled house whom have no intention of do anything productive.

They don't want to do anything and Obama doesn't want to listen and Reid is too partisan to consider a compromise either? Shocker. That's how it is, deal with it. It isn't Obama's responsibility to make such major decisions on his own. That is what we call a dictatorship. We NEED those checks and balances, and too bad if nobody wants to cooperate. It IS a chicken or the egg situation, though.

[Free Bird]

Obama needs to stop using executive orders left and right, and I have no respect for you if you think he can just continuously disregard congress like this

STFU, Obama has only issued 182 executive orders, the only guys who have used less(since JFK) is Bush and Ford.

And Congress had their chance to deal with immigration and decided to punt it back to Obama.

It's not the amount of executive orders that matters, its the content of those executive orders.

And the fact that he is disregarding congress by doing all these orders to get his way. Don't like my idea? EXECUTIVE ORDER TIME.

What are you talking about? The only reason why Obama has had to go this route is because Congress has no intention of governing. Just look at the border crisis, Obama is using this route because the clowns on the right can't even get enough GOP votes for their own border bill and Boehner just punted the issue back to Obama.

There is a reason why no one outside of the people on the right don't by into the Obama is tyrant nonsense, the issue is an inept GOP controlled house whom have no intention of do anything productive.

They don't want to do anything and Obama doesn't want to listen and Reid is too partisan to consider a compromise either? Shocker. That's how it is, deal with it. It isn't Obama's responsibility to make such major decisions on his own. That is what we call a dictatorship. We NEED those checks and balances, and too bad if nobody wants to cooperate. It IS a chicken or the egg situation, though.

Oh please, they couldn't do anything because Boehner didn't have the votes from his own party. The bill was essentially not right wing enough for the tea party wing of the GOP, and you think it is the Dems being too partisan?

Yeah, it shouldn't be Obama's responsibility, but Boehner and the house punted the issue back and told him to do something about it. This isn't about Obama being some stubborn dictator, it is about an inept house lead GOP, who are too chicken**** to make tough decisions that would piss off their base.

Okay good. Real conversation. As I said, it was a chicken/egg thing. However, are you really going to blame only the house? Yes Boehner is an awful leader (Gowdy FTW) but Reid is too. It is this perfect mixture of ineptitude, which is why it would at least become a little less conjumbled if the GOP has both chambers again. It wouldn't be hunky dory, but at least Reid would stop limiting amendments and at least stuff would get through the Legislative branch, causing more of an incentive for compromise a-la 90s