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« on: April 19, 2016, 09:16:08 PM »

Well, congrats to Clinton supporters. Looks like the polls were quite good this time. However, I think we can throw out the notion that Sanders will always underperform his poll numbers in closed primaries.
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2016, 09:18:56 PM »

Well, congrats to Clinton supporters. Looks like the polls were quite good this time. However, I think we can throw out the notion that Sanders will always underperform his poll numbers in closed primaries.

I would like to echo this, also there might be some good signs here for Sanders in PA.

Maybe not PA, but definitely CT and RI.
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2016, 09:28:55 PM »

Is there any way the NYC/Long Island area can swing it back to 60%+ Clinton?

No, too many upstate counties out. Looks like my 57-43 prediction was spot on.
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2016, 09:48:15 PM »

more speeches like this and she'll easily get my support in November.

Yes please, we will need every vote we can get.

Hillary does, and this is why Clinton supporters who attack Sanders and his supporters should think twice. Hillary's not winning without Sanders supporters. She won't have to work for my vote, but it's clear that there are some Democratic voters and Democratic-leaning Independents who aren't sold on her yet.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2016, 09:51:31 PM »

more speeches like this and she'll easily get my support in November.

Yes please, we will need every vote we can get.

Hillary does, and this is why Clinton supporters who attack Sanders and his supporters should think twice. Hillary's not winning without Sanders supporters. She won't have to work for my vote, but it's clear that there are some Democratic voters and Democratic-leaning Independents who aren't sold on her yet.

If they vote for Trump or not at all then they're not the smartest and fall in-line with how they're acting.

One does not win an election by only winning the most intelligent voters. If too many of them vote for Trump/Cruz or stay home (more likely), Clinton will have a hard time winning.
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2016, 09:53:13 PM »

more speeches like this and she'll easily get my support in November.

Yes please, we will need every vote we can get.

Hillary does, and this is why Clinton supporters who attack Sanders and his supporters should think twice. Hillary's not winning without Sanders supporters. She won't have to work for my vote, but it's clear that there are some Democratic voters and Democratic-leaning Independents who aren't sold on her yet.

Might be good if the campaign stops floating these convention shenanigans... What the candidate does matters, and Sanders whole approach needs to change, this is not just about Clinton.  

Sanders isn't going to take it to the convention if he loses the pledged delegate count, he's already said as much. He's not going to tell his committed supporters in states like CA that it's over before they have a chance to vote.
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2016, 09:59:41 PM »

more speeches like this and she'll easily get my support in November.

Yes please, we will need every vote we can get.

Hillary does, and this is why Clinton supporters who attack Sanders and his supporters should think twice. Hillary's not winning without Sanders supporters. She won't have to work for my vote, but it's clear that there are some Democratic voters and Democratic-leaning Independents who aren't sold on her yet.

Might be good if the campaign stops floating these convention shenanigans... What the candidate does matters, and Sanders whole approach needs to change, this is not just about Clinton.  

Sanders isn't going to take it to the convention if he loses the pledged delegate count, he's already said as much. He's not going to tell his committed supporters in states like CA that it's over before they have a chance to vote.

That wasn't the only example - but unity after this is as much down to Sanders as it is to Clinton. He needs to stop going negative on Clinton, and focus on his message and his positive tone. He can do well without needing to tear her down. He needs to send the message to his supporters once its clear, that Clinton is not only 'acceptable' and 'preferable' but his choice.

I have little doubt that Sanders will try to keep his supporters involved after this race is over. That's what his campaign has been all about. I agree that Sanders should stay positive as much as possible, though that applies to Clinton and her supporters as well.
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2016, 10:02:32 PM »

more speeches like this and she'll easily get my support in November.

Yes please, we will need every vote we can get.

Hillary does, and this is why Clinton supporters who attack Sanders and his supporters should think twice. Hillary's not winning without Sanders supporters. She won't have to work for my vote, but it's clear that there are some Democratic voters and Democratic-leaning Independents who aren't sold on her yet.

If they vote for Trump or not at all then they're not the smartest and fall in-line with how they're acting.

One does not win an election by only winning the most intelligent voters. If too many of them vote for Trump/Cruz or stay home (more likely), Clinton will have a hard time winning.

Then they're not really progressive. Most of them just wouldn't vote instead of voting for someone else. Means they don't really care about the liberal cause if they'd rather have Trump win.

I mostly agree, but that doesn't change the fact that Clinton needs at least some of these voters.
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2016, 11:22:21 PM »

Looks like Sanders will (barely) end up with more votes than Obama did in 2008.
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2016, 10:17:57 PM »

NYC must be the Bernieorbust folks' least favorite place now.
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