Chrylser to America:Thank you! America:bite it

[Lunar]

So should they not advertise at all?

This seems like basic PR which upholds its obligation to both the shareholders and the U.S. government.  You have to convince people that you're a new company if they're going to buy your cars.


This is a stupid complaint, and how much do these newspaper ads cost compared to the typical advertisement buy on TV?

[Lunar]

I'm sorry, but isn't 50-75% of capitalism (especially in the car business) a matter of convincing rather than producing?  What is Chrysler supposed to do, research, develop and start building an entire new line of cars within six months?


Why are these newspaper advertisements more outrageous than the generic GM TV ads I see?  Because they are more tangible and you can hold them in your hand is why, I suspect.


The Big Three make awful cars, but they're never going to ever be capable of making better cars unless people buy their current ones.  Fact.

[Lunar]

by the way, I adopt a somewhat weird stance on the issue as I've stated earlier. 

I think it's horrible to let these companies exist if they'll constantly need subsidies, yet horrible to let mass firings occur, thus I support simply hiring these workers to do more productive things than working in dying industry - U.S. officials should stand outside of those autoplants as they do their firings and hire the workers [with more oversight] to do public works projects like infrastructure of every kind and education (does education count as infrastructure?), especially if that means moving to a more productive state.  But I live in a dream world with this type of proposal.

But the entire reason for the auto bailout is not the company, but rather than the employees,  We can employee the same workers a lot cheaper on Uncle Sam's dollar and with a lot better long-term payout, so why not?

[Lunar]

Dude I hate Chrysler and I never supported giving them money.  I thought it was a dilemma but with a much better alternative (if we're going to be spending 800 bil, let's just hire unemployed autoworkers to move to other parts of the country and build infrastructure).  I MIGHT support the Bush alternative (giving them money) if the alternative was refused (hiring the newly unemployed workers), which is likely.  Thus I'm kind of torn on the bailout.   It's stupid economically, but I wonder if it's the best feasible option.  Meh.  I oppose it, but barely.

As I said before, the only people who buy sedans like Malibu are car rental agencies and people who buy Nickleback Albums in the store, end of story.

[Lunar]

If they can't stand on their own, there's not a whole lot that can be done to help them.

but the real question is: supposing they already have help, is it a wise investment to spend money as they are doing in newspaper advertisements compared to other forms of advertisements?  I don't think any of us really has any authority to compare these mediums of advertisement relative to television advertisement and it really seems like a gimmick issue overall.



I really don't see what the big deal is.  They are "thanking" us -- which is what I guess what irks some people, but really it's just a big ad attempting to rebrand themeselves, which is more legitimate.

[Lunar]

It's not a big deal.  It's funny, in a sad, fu@ked up way.

ah, well, I'm just saying I don't view this different from any other form of advertising except it provides a "gotcha" moment to media outlets that don't realize how gullible the public is