Obama to announce executive order on immigration

[KCDem]

There's a catch. The Deporter-in-Chief wants to do enough to prevent Latino voters from staying home or voting third party in 2016 but not enough to actually help them.

Glorious news! They don't get to break the law for free!

[KCDem]

I'm happy he is doing it, but he just ruined anything else happening you might like in his presidency, a fact you all know but won't admit. 

Glorious news! The Grand Bargain is dead!

[KCDem]

Accirding to the latest Politico article, Mario Diaz-Balart was on the verge of securing passage of immigration reform through the HoR right before David Brat shocked Eric Cantor in his primary. At that time pretty much everyone here was celebrating except for me. A victory for the forces of obstinacy over those of compromise and moderation, even when the latter is in the form of the otherwise arch conservative Mr. Cantor, is never a good thing. For all those who cheered on Mr. Brat yet would have preferred congressional over executive action, regardless on which side you fall, this is your result.

Weren't most members already safely through their primaries by the time Cantor got upset? That was probably just an excuse. If they were so chicken that Cantor's defeat scared them off, they probably wouldn't have had the balls to bring it up so close to an election to begin with.

I'm just repeating what I read on Politico. Supposedly, Diaz-Balart had 120 Republicans on board.

I'm calling massive BS. And major trolling from Politico.

[KCDem]

LOL!

https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/535153570866147328

Broadcast networks won't air Obama's address, but Univision will do so live right before the Latin Grammys. I'm sure the WH is devastated.

Glorious news! I'm sure the Republicans can't wait for Latinos to start voting like blacks!

[KCDem]

It should frighten all of us that one man can pass laws by executive order.  The President is not supposed to be dictator and every new law must be passed by Congress.

It should not frighten us that one man elected by the people who is term limited can pass laws by executive order. A dictatorship does not include free and open elections.

Frankly, it frightens me more that people like Louie Gohmert or Charlie Rangel have power to pass laws.  The amount of power Congress has given the kind of person elected to Congress is truly scary.

When you coincide it that the President is not elected by drawn districts but by a total vote of the people and that turn out is nearly double in elections for President than they are in elections for Congress and that the President faces a legitimate opponent while most members of Congress run unopposed, the President is clearly more a Representative of the People than the Congress of the United States.

Not to mention with the President we are actually having this debate on his actions. The President had to give a nationally televised address to announce this action. Presidential actions are vocal and visible. Congressional actions are done in secret, in committee, and in bribery where a person can amend a bill to his liking and then vote against it for show, completely lying to his/her constituency. The bills are 100x longer than executive orders. Congressional action is impossible to check.  Then, we have the concept of the House and Senate: gerrymandered districts and disproportionately awarded Senate seats.

Any person who is truly afraid of oligarchy, dictatorship, and destruction of citizens rights should support the open Executive Action of the President as a check against the corrupt and nondemocratic institution of the United States Congress as it exists in the 21st Century.

So, just throw away the Constitution and a Republican form of government?  If a President can do this what is the point of even having a congress?

There is none. Junk Congress!

[KCDem]

^^There is nothing more that can be done to secure the border. Get over it, if there's a will, there's a way to get through it.

[KCDem]

^^There is nothing more that can be done to secure the border. Get over it, if there's a will, there's a way to get through it.

Of course, which is why it is a good sign that Obama still wants to keep going with the deportation of those that break the law.

Then why did you say his executive order didn't do enough to secure the border?

[KCDem]

It's a bit funny how lauded Obama is on here for taking essentially a Ted Cruz type action, trolling the other party and sticking a finger into their eye, and dividing the nation. Grandstanding for essentially political purposes. I can respect it as a good political tactic, but I hope now that some of the bullcrap "change we can believe in" stuff can finally subside. This dude is a divider, not a leader. If that wasn't obvious already.

Congressional accomplishments 1776-present:
1. Prolonging slavery, destroying thousands of lives.
2. Rejecting Woodrow Wilson's WWI peace plan, causing World War II.
3. Prolonging our entrance into World War II, destroying thousands of lives.
4. Starting the Civil War
5. Bridge to Nowhere projects
6. McCarthy Hearings, Red Scare, Cold War propaganda
7. Segregation
8. Defense of Marriage Act
9. Debt ceiling crisis

Presidential accomplishments 1776-present:
1. Defeating the British
2. Ending slavery
3. Winning World War I
4. Winning World War II
5. Social Security
6. Medicare
7. Ending the Cold War

Name me one thing the Congress forced a US President to sign that was good for this country. Name me one thing a US President forced the Congress to pass that was bad.

Good God what an awful post. How ignorant are you of history?

Junk post! Junk user!