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Question: Can Tim Kaine ever win a Democratic presidential nomination?
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RINO Tom
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« on: July 26, 2016, 03:20:16 PM »

Yes, very likely.

As the GOP barrels towards Trumpism, moderate Democrats are going to have a much easier time being elected.  Tim Kaine is the perfect kind of Democrat to capture Republican neocon voters and make then Democratic for a generation

Highly doubtful.  Did you even watch the convention last night?  GOP being more Trump-like =/= Democrats becoming more GOP-like.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2016, 11:33:35 AM »

Yes, very likely.

As the GOP barrels towards Trumpism, moderate Democrats are going to have a much easier time being elected.  Tim Kaine is the perfect kind of Democrat to capture Republican neocon voters and make then Democratic for a generation

Highly doubtful.  Did you even watch the convention last night?  GOP being more Trump-like =/= Democrats becoming more GOP-like.

There's simply no way that the Democratic Party of 1980 would stand for anything like TPP.

And now we have Terry McAuliffe saying Clinton will do a 180 on the issue if she's elected

En vogue positions on race, gender and religion a leftist does not make Roll Eyes

The Democratic Party of 2016 ISN'T STANDING FOR TPP.  Are you not aware of the Congressional vote breakdown by party?  It enjoyed heavy Republican support and heavy Democratic opposition.  This is a Republican bill that happens to have support from the current Democratic President.  The current nominee had to come out strongly against it to survive her primary.  Were you not watching when Bernie Sanders proclaimed that a Clinton Presidency would squash the TPP to thunderous applause from the Democratic Convention hall?  Have you not seen the exit polls showing most Democratic electorates also opposing free trade (everyone is making a big deal of Republicans being noticeably less in favor of trade in the last 10 years, but even if we completely ignore the high probability that this has to do with a Democratic President, the fact is the whole country has moved in a more protectionist direction)?

The Democrats aren't becoming more pro-trade, and if anything they're becoming less supportive of it.  Of the four people on the two major party tickets, only one openly supports free trade, and he's the Republican VP pick.
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