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Bigby
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« on: September 24, 2014, 06:16:56 PM »

Hubert Humphrey (D - MN)/John Connally (D - TX) 1969 - 1973
Ronald Reagan (R - CA)/Charles H. Percy (R - IL) 1973 - 1981
Scoop Jackson (D - WA)/Ted Kennedy (D - MA) 1981 - 1981 (1)
Ted Kennedy (D - MA)/John Glenn (D - OH) 1981 - 1989 (2)
Terry Brandstad (R - IA)/Pete Wilson (R - CA) 1989 - 1997
Pete Wilson (R - CA)/Pat Roberts (R - KS) 1997 - 2001
Mario Cuomo (D - NY)/Mark Warner (D - VA) 2001 - 2006 (3)
Mark Warner (D - VA)/Anthony Wiener (D - NY) 2006 - 2013 (4)
Rick Perry (R - TX)/John Huntsman (R - UT) 2013 - 2021

1. Died in office.
2. Successor to President Jackson. Senator John Glenn chosen to fill the Vice Presidency.
3. Died in office.
4. Successor to President Cuomo. Representative Anthony Wiener chosen to fill the Vice Presidency.
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Bigby
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E: -6.52, S: 3.74

« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2014, 05:58:03 PM »
« Edited: October 23, 2014, 01:38:15 AM by Bigby »

(I went out of my comfort zone with this PoD. Decided to try 19th century politics.)

Divergence: The Whigs run only one ticket in 1836.

8. William Henry Harrison (W - OH)/Daniel Webster (W - MA): 1837 - 1841 (1)
9. Daniel Webster (W - MA)/Vacant: 1841 - 1845 (2)
10. John C. Calhoun (D - SC)/Lewis Cass (D - MI): 1845 - 1853 (3)
11. Lewis Cass (D - MI)/John Bell (D - TN): 1853 - 1857
12. Winfield Scott (W - NJ)/William Seward (W - NY): 1857 - 1860 (4)
13. William Seward (W - NY)/Vacant: 1860 - 1861 (5)

Notes:

1. Died during his 2nd term.
2. Presidency challenged by both Democrats and Whigs alike.
3. Realignment election: Pro-slavery Calhoun infuriates most Northern Democrats and attracts many Southern Whigs; Whigs become anti-slavery after Webster's defeat in 1844,
4. Dies in office during US Civil War (which begins in 1858 ATL.)
5. Impeached after begrudgingly signing peace with the Confederate states. Radical Whigs appoint John C. Fremont who passes laws suspending elections until further notice due to societal disorder.
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E: -6.52, S: 3.74

« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2015, 09:27:28 PM »

Legend: Blue for Republicans, Red for Democrats, and Green for Other.

37. Richard Nixon/Edmund Muskie (1969 - 1973) (1)
38. Scoop Jackson/Terry Sanford (1973 - 1977)
39. Ronald Reagan/Donald Rumsfeld (1977-1985)
40. Donald Rumsfeld/John Tower (1985 - 1989)
41. Paul Tsongas/Jerry Brown (1989 - 1994) (2)
42. Jerry Brown/Sam Nunn  (1994 - 1997) (3)
43. Jack Kemp/John Kasich (1997 - 2005)
44. John Kasich/Lamar Alexander (2005 - 2013)
45. Charlie Crist/Conan O'Brien (2013 - 2017, Incumbent) (4)

Notes:

1. A Nixon/Percy ticket helps cause a hung electoral college with Nixon at 269 EVs. Neither candidate caves into George Wallace, but Nixon squeaks by due to increased Northern support and the divided Democratic party. Edmund Muskie is chosen to be Vice President with undivided Democratic support.
2. President Tsongas dies in March of 1994 from leukemia. Vice President Jerry Brown succeeds him.
3. Brown initially nominates Douglas Wilder to replace him as VP, but is forced to choose Senator Sam Nunn after the Senate rejects his original choice.
4. This version of Charlie Crist has always been a Democrat.

Losing Tickets:

1968: Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie; George Wallace/Strom Thurmond (1)
1972: Richard Nixon/Gerald Ford
1976: Scoop Jackson/Terry Sanford
1980: Ted Kennedy/Gary Hart
1984: Gary Hart/Cliff Finch
1988: Donald Rumsfeld/John Tower
1992: Robert Dole/John McCain
1996: Jerry Brown/Sam Nunn; Ted Kennedy/Dianne Feinstein (2)
2000: Harry Reid/Anne Richards
2004: Anne Richards/Lincoln Chafee (3)
2008: Lincoln Chafee/Al Gore
2012: Gordon Smith/George Allen

Notes:

1. Edmund Muskie was in 2nd place along with President nominee Hubert Humphrey, but the hung electoral college allowed him to be elected Vice President. Nixon's VP nominee was Charles Percy. George Wallace ran as an "American Independent" candidate.
2. Ted Kennedy ran as a third party under the "Liberal Democrat" label in protest against Brown's supposed submission to the establishment.
3. Lincoln Chafee switched to the Democratic Party due to dissatisfaction with President Jack Kemp's ardent fiscal conservatism.
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Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: 3.74

« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2015, 12:26:12 PM »
« Edited: August 12, 2015, 12:40:29 PM by Bigby »

Point of Divergence: Pat Robertson and Jesse Jackson somehow become the respective Republican and Democratic nominees. John Huntsman Sr. runs as a Ross Perot-type figure due to widespread disapproval of both candidates.

41: Jon Huntsman Sr. (R - UT)/Douglas Wilder (D - VA) 1989 - 1997 (1)
42: Jack Kemp (R - NY)/Richard Lugar (R - IN) 1997 - 2001
43: Howard Dean (PRO - VT)/Gary Locke (PRO - WA) 2001 - 2005 (2)
44: Jerry Brown (PRO - CA)/Paul Wellstone (PRO - MN) 2005 - 2009 (3)
45: Jon Huntsman Jr. (POP - UT)/Jim Webb (POP - VA)  2009 - 2017

Notes:

1. The Huntsman Sr./Wilder ticket originally ran without a party label, but President Huntsman Sr. later announced the formation of the Populist Reform Party during the 1990 midterms. The party was often called by the shortened name Populist Party.
2. After the complete implosion of the Democratic Party and the rightward slide of the Populist Party, Vermont Governor Howard Dean announced the creation of the American Progressive Party, or the Progressive Party for short.
3. Economic Recession, an unpopular Assault Weapons ban in 2002, and going too far left on immigration made President Dean extremely unpopular. Former California Governor turned Senator Jerry Brown primaries Dean and wins by a slim electoral margin.
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E: -6.52, S: 3.74

« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2015, 08:03:21 PM »
« Edited: September 05, 2015, 08:12:36 PM by Bigby »

28. Teddy Roosevelt (R-NY)/Frank Lowden (R-IL): 1913-1921
29. Frank Lowden (R-IL)/William Borah (R-ID): 1921 - 1922 (1)
30. William Borah (R-ID)/Leonard Wood (R-NH): 1922-1929 (2)
31. John Davis (D-WV)/Al Smith (D-NY): 1929-1937
32. Pat McCarran (D-NV)/James F. Byrnes (D - SC): 1937 - 1941 (3)
33. Harold Ickes (R-IL)/Hiram Johnson (R-CA): 1941-1949
34. Leverett Saltonstall (D-MA)/Coke Stevenson (D- TX): 1949-1957 (4)

Notes:
1. Assassinated by a white ethnic anarchist.
2. Despite the turmoil in this world's 1920's and an "anti-Catholic" platform, Borah barely wins re-election after a recount in Pennsylvania. Borah is impeached but not convicted. An Amendment was passed that allows the President to pick a Vice President in the instance where the VP slot has been emptied for whatever reason; Wood was confirmed in 1924.
3. President McCarran survives assassination, but his poor health prevents him from running for a second term.
4. Saltonstall became a Democrat in the 1920's due to religious reasons. His Unitarian faith caused flashes with the mainline Protestant majority in the GOP.

I will finish this later after making a few maps for this. I will also let people guess how the parties are like and what coalitions are in them. A cookie goes to the person who guesses the most correct guess.
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Bigby
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E: -6.52, S: 3.74

« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2015, 04:57:03 PM »


A Republican South? Say What?

33. Harry S. Truman (D - MO)/Vacant: 1945 - 1949
34. Leverett Saltonstall (R - MA)/John Bricker (R - OH): 1949 - 1957
35. Joseph McCarthy (D - WI)/Ronald W. Reagan (D - CA): 1957 - 1961
36. Nelson Rockefeller (R - NY)/Prescott Bush (R - CT): 1961 - 1962 (1)
37. Prescott Bush (R - CT)/Ralph Yarborough (D - TX): 1962 - 1969 (2)
38. Ralph Yarborough (PU - TX)/Eugene McCarthy (PU - MN): 1969 - 1973 (3)
39. John Tower (D - TX)/Scoop M. Jackson (D - WA): 1973 - 1981

Notes:

1. President Rockefeller is assassinated by a lone gunman at Jackson, MS. The gunman was originally thought to be a Ku Klux Klan member, but investigation led to the truth that the gunman was a Communist Party member disguised as a racist KKK member.
2. Bush picks Senator Yarborough, despite him being a Democrat, for "national unity." Yarborough is shoehorned into the increasingly liberal GOP.
3. Yarborough is elected by the "Progressive Unity" movement, but is by now a registered Republican.

I should totally make this a TL someday.
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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2015, 10:18:47 PM »
« Edited: September 26, 2015, 06:04:24 PM by Bigby »

42. Ross Perot (I - TX)/James Stockdale (I - CA): 1993 - 1997 (1)
43. Pete Wilson (R - CA)/Bob Inglis (R - SC): 1997 - 2005
44. Evan Bayh (D - IN)/Bill Richardson (D - NM): 2005 - 2013
45. Ron White (I - TX)/Gary Johnson (R - NM): 2013 - Present (2)

Notes:

1. President Perot was almost killed in a bomb explosion. While he survived, he considered himself too injured to run for a second term and declined to run again. He was friendlier to the GOP and his Reform movement strongly influenced the Wilson campaign.
2. Texas Governor Ron White re-ignites the Reform Movement and forms a coalition with the Republican Party. It is unknown if he will become a Republican, remain unaffiliated, or form a new party.

Bonus: Texas Gubernatorial History

Anne Richards: 1991 - 1999
David Dewhurst: 1999 - 2007
Ron White: 2007 - 2013 (Resigned to assume the Presidency)
Kinky Friedman: 2013 - 2015
John Cornyn: 2015 - Present
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E: -6.52, S: 3.74

« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2015, 07:04:01 PM »

Eobard Thawne Changes Time Again, or I'm Watching Arrowverse TV Shows Too Much.

Unlike in Flash, Eobard Thawne ends up in 1990. He still kills Nora Allen, though Barry is already born and Joe West is blamed for Nora's murder rather than Henry Allen. Thawne not only takes Dr. Harrison Wells' identity, he runs for office as Wells in addition to being a scientist. Time otherwise goes undisturbed, though "Wells" becomes a Perot supporter in 1992, getting personally involved in the billionaire's campaign. Though Clinton still wins by the same margin, history soon diverts by 1996 as political changes happen too. Wells continues to make public political comments in this altered reality, but he focuses on solely scientific pursuits until 2006, when he is elected Mayor of Central City. He later runs for President as a Perot-styled Independent...

42. William Jefferson Clinton (D - AR)/Albert Gore, Jr. (D - TN): 1993 - 1997
43. H. Norman Schwarzkopf, Jr. (R - NJ)/Thomas Joseph Ridge (R - PA): 1997 - 2002 (1)
44. Thomas Joseph Ridge (R - PA)/Joe Wilson (R - SC): 2002 - 2009 (2)
45. Rod Blagoevich (D - IL)/Gary Locke (D - WA): 2009 - 2010 (3)
46. Gary Locke (D - WA)/Mike Michaud (D - ME): 2010-2013 (4)
47. Harrison Wells (I - MO)/Jesse Ventura (I - MN): 2013 - Present (5)

Scientific research has unsurprisingly been a top priority under the Wells Presidency. Shortly before the 2016 election year began, it was announced that the Particle Accelerator would be ready on December 2015 rather than in December of 2020. Increased federal funding has been a pivotal key in speeding up this revolutionary innovation. President Wells and Vice President Ventura will visit Wells' native Central City to view the Accelerator going online.

OOC Notes:

1. President Schwarzkopf mysteriously died in his sleep months after UFOs nearly crashed into and destroyed Gotham City, NYC, and the Pentagon. The FBI and Secret Service have never been able to pinpoint the cause of his death.
2. Vice President Ridge succeeded the deceased President Schwarzkopf. He chose Congressman Joe Wilson to become his VP.
3. After a year-long investigation, President Blagoevich was found guilty of conspiracy in voter fraud and intimidation in key swing states. He was impeached and convicted quickly afterwards.
4. Vice President Locke, who was found to be not involved in any crimes, succeeded President Blagoevich. He chose Congressman Mike Michaud to become the new VP.
5. I have no idea where Central City is supposed to be in the Arrowverse, but in DC Comics proper, it is currently in Missouri. Hence why I have Wells as hailing from Missouri.
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2016, 10:21:48 PM »

43. Donald J. Trump (Reform - NY)/Jesse Ventura (Reform - MN), 2001. (1)
44. Jesse Ventura (Reform - MN)/Angus King (Reform - ME), 2001 - 2009.
45. Joseph Lieberman (D - CT)/John Barrow (D - GA), 2009 - 2013. (2)
46. John Kasich (Republican - OH)/Mitch Daniels (R - IN), 2013 - 2017. (3)
47. Wayne Newton (Reform - NV)/Jeff Sessions (Reform - AL), 2017 - Present.

1. President Trump died during the Sept. 11th attack on the World Trade Center in his native New York City. Vice President Ventura succeeded him. President Ventura chose Maine Governor Angus King for VP a week after inauguration.
2. President Lieberman was impeached by a coalition of Republican and Reform Congressman in the House over leaked tapes of him and the Secretary of State with Iran. However, the Democratic plurality and pro-Lieberman Republicans in the Senate worked to prevent a conviction.
3. VP-Elect Kasich becomes POTUS after President-Elect John McCain dies on New Year's Day. Two months pass before he picks Mitch Daniels as VP after intense infighting with very conservative Republicans.
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E: -6.52, S: 3.74

« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2016, 10:16:27 AM »

39. Ronald Reagan (R - CA)/Richard Schweiker (R - PA): 1977 - 1985
40. Paul Tsongas (D - MA)/Lloyd Bentsen (D - TX): 1985 - 1989
41. Barry M. Goldwater, Jr. (R - CA)/Mack Mattingly (R - GA): 1989 - 1997
42. John Glenn (D - OH)/Tom Foley (D - WA): 1997 - 2005
43. Jeff Sessions (R - AL)/James Mattis (R - WA): 2005 - 2013
44. James Mattis (R - WA)/Jim DeMint (R - SC): 2013 - (Incumbent)

Losing Tickets:

1976: Frank Church (D - ID)/Ted Kennedy (D - MA)
1980: Ted Kennedy (D - MA)/Jerry Brown (D - CA)
1984: Richard Schweiker (R - PA)/Jeff Bell (R - NJ)
1988: Dianne Feinstein (D - CA)/Gary Hart (D - CO)
1992: Gary Hart (D - CO)/Sam Nunn (D - GA)
1996: Mack Mattingly (R - GA)/Steve Forbes (R - NY)
2000: Steve Forbes (R - NY)/Pat Buchanan (R - VA)
2004: Gary Locke (D - WA)/Evan Bayh (D - IN)
2008: Gary Locke (D - WA)/Lincoln Chafee (D - RI)
2012: Evan Bayh (D - IN)/Alison L. Grimes (D - KY)
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2016, 11:41:23 PM »

Successful Hartford Convention:
(Using solely OTL Election Results.)

Presidents of the United States up to 1861:

5. James Monroe (DR - VA)/William Crawford (DR - GA): 1817 - 1825
6. Andrew Jackson (D - TN)/John C. Calhoun (D - SC): 1825 - 1833 (1)
7. Richard M. Johnson (D - KY)/Littleton W. Tazewell (D - VA): 1833 - 1837 (2)
8. Littleton W. Tazewell (D - VA)/James Buchanan (D - PA): 1837 - 1841
9. William Henry Harrison (W - OH)/John Tyler (W - VA): 1841 (3)
10. John Tyler (W/I - VA)/Vacant: 1841 - 1845
11. James Polk (D - TN)/George Dallas (D - PA): 1845 - 1849
12. Lewis Cass (D - MI)/William O. Butler (D - KY): 1849 - 1857
13. James Buchanan (D - PA)/John Breckenridge (D - KY): 1857 - 1861
14. Joseph Lane (D - OR)/Vacant: 1861 - Present (4)

(1) Andrew Jackson as President and John C. Calhoun win the Electoral College outright despite the fractured party nature of the general election.
(2) Johnson declines running for a second term as his relationship with his slave Julia Chinn becomes too controversial. Vice President Tazewell replaces him.
(3) Harrison dies from pneumonia and is replaced by his VP John Tyler, who will later be expelled from the Whig Party over basically being a Democrat who happened to oppose Jackson's anti-nullification.
(4) Breckenridge was elected in a heated election by the House of Representatives, with the Senate picking his VP nominee, Joseph Lane. Around the time of Wisconsin's secession in 1860, Breckenridge was assassinated under mysterious circumstances. Abolitionist radicals linked to Wisconsin's secessionist government were later discovered to be the culprits, fueling the flames leading to the Civil War.

Presidents of New England up to 1861:

1. Daniel Tompkins (AF - NY)/John Quincy Adams (I - MA): 1817 - 1825 (1)
2. John Quincy Adams (F - MA)/DeWitt Clinton (F - NY): 1825 - 1829 (2)
3. Daniel Webster (F - MA)/Francis Granger (F - CT): 1829 - 1833 (3)
4. Peter B. Porter (AF - NY)/Vacant: 1833 - 1837 (4)
5. Martin Van Buren (AF - NY)/Charles Adams (AF - MA): 1837 - 1841 (5)
6. Theodore Freylinghusen (F - NY)/Leicester King (F - CT): 1841 - 1845
7. Martin Van Buren (AF - NY)/Charles Adams (AF - MA): 1845 - 1849
8. Millard Fillmore (F - NY)/George Evans (F - ME): 1849 - 1853
9. Franklin Pierce (P - NH)/Nathaniel P. Banks (P - MA): 1853 - 1857
10. William Seward (N - NY)/Edward Everett (N - MA): 1857 - 1861 (6)

(1) Despite being a Federalist plot, the chaos caused by the success of the Hartford Convention caused voters to select an Antifederalist ticket resoundingly. The election of Tompkins proved to be a blessing, as secession went rather smoothly under his administration. John Quincy Adams became the VP, refusing to declare for either party while assuming the role of a government builder.
(2) Adams was a popular President but served just one term due to an amendment to the New England Constitution that allowed succeeding Presidents to be from his successor's state at the cost of being restricted to one term in office. Adams also got the Electoral College done away with, meaning that the President from then on would be determined by Popular Vote.
(3) Webster benefited from the constitutional changes under his predecessor John Quincy Adams.
(4) Porter's Vice Presidential-Elect died shortly before inauguration.
(5) Adams was twenty-nine during the election, though the New England Constitution requires that the President be both thirty or older to serve. However, the Supreme Court ruled that since Adams would become thirty by the time of his inauguration, he is eligible.
(6) Though popular in his first term of office, President Seward's public image cratered when he forced Congress to pass an amendment to allow him two terms rather than one. This combined with voter suppression to defeat Populist candidate Charles Sumner has led to extreme public unrest, particularly in New York City. Though for different reasons, New England teeters on the brink of tearing itself apart like its sister nation, the United States.

(By the way, finding Antifederalists/Populists for New England was a damn pain.)
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