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bullmoose88
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« on: September 18, 2014, 05:46:54 PM »


How many times did Afleitch get to vote today?
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2014, 06:58:18 PM »

The turnout in Dundee City is 78.8%

Wasn't that supposed to be a Yes stronghold?
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2014, 11:06:58 PM »

So where does the uk go from here? Federalism and English votes for English laws and assuming the Tories deprive labour a majority in England at some point labour wins the whole uk, what then?

And how soon before Scotland votes again?
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2014, 03:20:55 PM »

Just to let people know there are clashes in George Square in Glasgow. Loyalists have gathered and have set off flares. Other flares going off in small numbers across the city. Getting under control.

You're staying safe, assuming its perilous which...possibly not, I hope?
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2014, 04:53:04 PM »

My apologies if it is too soon/body's not even cold yet (insert similar expression here)...

...how soon before we get indyref 2 here?  I know I asked this question last night and IIRC (too lazy to go back) someone mentioned that Salmond said this is a once in a generation chance.

I disagree.  

I mean surely some of the momentum for independence may have been slowed, for now...in the short term....but more than 4 in 10 Scots voted to toss the Union aside last night.  Can the three (err maybe 2.5) major westminster unionist parties really heal the Union?  

(In the interests of disclosure, I'm obviously an American who cares too much about the political affairs of other nations.  On top of it, I have some sort of unexplainable affinity for the Union.  I don't know if its just in America's best interest to keep the UK intact, or if its just because I detest secession generally [exceptions apply], but certainly it sounds hypocritical to be an American and not support countries leaving Britain's...err...yeah...fold.  I know.  Mea Culpa.  Also, as an aside I have doubts about how smart it would have been for relatively small country to either use the pound or the euro at present.  If I were in such a country and was a policy maker, [thank the gods I am not] I'd probably would rather have my own currency and keep control of monetary policy.)

Seeing a British federal system where the four component countries have similar internal powers would be neat (well as neat as it could be for someone in my seat thousands of miles away--again, sorry).  But, and please correct me if I'm wrong, I have the sneaking suspicion that the nationalist growth outpaces that of the unionists in Northern Ireland...how soon before a nationalist stormont demands a referendum?  And how likely would they win at that point?  

And if they do win, what's to stop Scotland from taking another bite at the apple (to borrow a favorite lawyer phrase...sorry again...people hate lawyers I know)?  

How does Westminster keep everyone happy? Or happy enough?

Now I await the inevitable smack down of facts from Al and/or Andrew.  Surely it will be deserved.
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