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The_Doctor
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« on: February 02, 2017, 09:41:00 AM »

Yes because bombing a nation of 80 million with mountainous borders and terrain is going to be exactly just like Iraq, a nation a fraction of that size and population.

Trump won't (I think) actually rip up the deal. The Iranians were stupid but Trump would risk a whole new conflagration that would disrupt the Middle East (and the precious oilz). Most likely, Trump acts bellicose but someone takes him aside quietly and tells him "No, Donnie, this isn't a good idea."
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2017, 09:44:19 AM »

Unless Trump Inc. has oil investments, just tell him that oil prices will go through the roof. That will deter him, since popularity is his one overriding goal (I think. He acts like an incompetent man child day to day so...)
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2017, 10:18:45 AM »

Regardless, no we're not tearing up the deal or bombing Iran. That kind of quagmire, the G(od) - E(mperor) hates, and the GOP has a very intense deathly fear of Middle Eastern quagmires. Bombing would just plunge the Middle East into chaos, forcing us to intervene (again) down the road.

The GE will bluster and bellow, but someone from NSC or the nearest remotely sane foreign policy hand will take him aside and in very slow monosyllables explain the consequences of tearing up the deal and refusing to engage Iran further.

At which point GE will simply shift to another topic to angrily tweet about. Maybe we'll insult Mozambique next. That would probably be the least offensive and most safest thing he could do at this point that he is capable of doing.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2017, 12:03:28 PM »

Regardless, no we're not tearing up the deal or bombing Iran. That kind of quagmire, the G(od) - E(mperor) hates, and the GOP has a very intense deathly fear of Middle Eastern quagmires. Bombing would just plunge the Middle East into chaos, forcing us to intervene (again) down the road.

The GE will bluster and bellow, but someone from NSC or the nearest remotely sane foreign policy hand will take him aside and in very slow monosyllables explain the consequences of tearing up the deal and refusing to engage Iran further.

At which point GE will simply shift to another topic to angrily tweet about. Maybe we'll insult Mozambique next. That would probably be the least offensive and most safest thing he could do at this point that he is capable of doing.

Right. Quickly issuing statements that they view the JCPOA as separate and as something that needs to be upheld is the tell.

New sanctions would not surprise me though

Assuming I follow you right ...

Yeah essentially. The Iranians will roll their eyes. The Obama strategy was the only logical and geopolitical wise rational strategy possible, really. Start up with sanctions, get them to the table, negotiate, and have this kind of deal as a result. Corker knows it too, which is why he didn't sign the Iran letter in 2015, among other things.

Our allies are not interested in engaging Iran militarily either. That's why the JCPOA is probably in effect. There will be bluster and chest beating but anything beyond that would provoke a military conflict that would end up possibly endangering the GOP so yeah. That's the tell, I agree.

Bibi will be deeply disappointed but the United States simply can't afford to get involved with bombs and the U.S. military.
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The_Doctor
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2017, 06:06:30 PM »

As I said…

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-is-expected-to-impose-sanctions-on-multiple-iranian-entities-2017-2?&platform=bi-androidap

Money quote:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States is expected to impose sanctions on multiple Iranian entities as early as Friday following Tehran's recent ballistic missile test, but in a way that will not violate the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, sources familiar with the matter said on Thursday.

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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2017, 09:48:56 AM »



Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump
North Korea is looking for trouble. If China decides to help, that would be great. If not, we will solve the problem without them!  U.S.A.


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If Un is lookin' for trouble, he's come to the right place.

Donald is gonna nail this mongrel now.

I would like to thank the Atlas voting public for electing Donald Trump as POTUS.

I don't actually disagree that he will strike North Korea but this is an interesting thread to revive, since nothing a) happened to Iran b) the Iran deal is still in place (for the reasons I laid out in this thread).
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