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« on: October 15, 2016, 04:59:51 PM »

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/301174-kasich-gop-must-evolve-or-it-will-die

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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2016, 05:03:53 PM »

Kasich has a nice way of speaking; but his actual policies are firmly right-wing, I don't really understand all the love for him in the middle or on the left.

His policies are fiscally conservative polices, but Trump wing of the party is essentially a repudiation of that and Hillary economic polices are closer to his then Trump
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2016, 05:04:32 PM »

Kasich has a nice way of speaking; but his actual policies are firmly right-wing, I don't really understand all the love for him in the middle or on the left.

and oh ya if your center right or centrist kasich was the best guy in this election period
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2016, 05:15:42 PM »

Kasich has a nice way of speaking; but his actual policies are firmly right-wing, I don't really understand all the love for him in the middle or on the left.

His policies are fiscally conservative polices, but Trump wing of the party is essentially a repudiation of that

hahaha. Trump is a far-right loon on fiscal policy, just like there rest of his party. His "economic populism" is just lip service; if he actually got elected, he'd be a union-buster who would rubber stamp everything Paul Ryan passes. Trump has literally said that workers' wages are "too higH". His anti-working class, social darwinist economic policies aren't atypical of the Republican Party whatsoever.

Well except the fact that Kasich is an actual fiscal conservative(who supports balancing the budget and cutting waste) while trump would add 10 trillion dollars to the debt  in a time of economic growth and with no major foreign crises like WW2 and the cold war
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2016, 05:18:26 PM »
« Edited: October 15, 2016, 05:23:34 PM by Moderate Hero »

Kasich has a nice way of speaking; but his actual policies are firmly right-wing, I don't really understand all the love for him in the middle or on the left.

and oh ya if your center right or centrist kasich was the best guy in this election period

If you're actually a centrist, then Hillary is the best candidate in this election. Period.

Kasich being some sort of a moderate is a joke. He's just a "soothing Midwesterner" which made him look sane next to the loons he was on stage with.

Moderate Hero is really challenged when it comes to the whole ideological thing. He's literally said that Wall St. stooge Clinton is firmly on the left, while crown prince of the Tea Party Marco Rubio is "centre-right". In addition to this, despite being a self proclaimed "Moderate Hero", he's a YUGE fan of Narendra Modi.

Im not a moderate hero , i just am compared to the far right and far left dominating both parties today. And no Rubio is closer to Jeb Bush and Romney then Cruz. And Hillary was center left before she pandered totally to bernie wing of the party .
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2016, 05:26:12 PM »
« Edited: October 15, 2016, 05:29:37 PM by Moderate Hero »

Kasich has a nice way of speaking; but his actual policies are firmly right-wing, I don't really understand all the love for him in the middle or on the left.

and oh ya if your center right or centrist kasich was the best guy in this election period

If you're actually a centrist, then Hillary is the best candidate in this election. Period.

Kasich being some sort of a moderate is a joke. He's just a "soothing Midwesterner" which made him look sane next to the loons he was on stage with.

Moderate Hero is really challenged when it comes to the whole ideological thing. He's literally said that Wall St. stooge Clinton is firmly on the left, while crown prince of the Tea Party Marco Rubio is "centre-right". In addition to this, despite being a self proclaimed "Moderate Hero", he's a YUGE fan of Narendra Modi.

Modi is the Reagan and Thatcher(my two favorite leaders of the past 50 years) of India. Plus there are many world leaders   since the 80s i like more then Modi:

Reagan
Thatcher
HW Bush
Bill Clinton(1994-2000 version)
David Cameron
And if Kasich or Rubio won them too

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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2016, 05:35:50 PM »

Kasich has a nice way of speaking; but his actual policies are firmly right-wing, I don't really understand all the love for him in the middle or on the left.

and oh ya if your center right or centrist kasich was the best guy in this election period

If you're actually a centrist, then Hillary is the best candidate in this election. Period.

Kasich being some sort of a moderate is a joke. He's just a "soothing Midwesterner" which made him look sane next to the loons he was on stage with.

Moderate Hero is really challenged when it comes to the whole ideological thing. He's literally said that Wall St. stooge Clinton is firmly on the left, while crown prince of the Tea Party Marco Rubio is "centre-right". In addition to this, despite being a self proclaimed "Moderate Hero", he's a YUGE fan of Narendra Modi.

Im not a moderate hero , i just am compared to the far right and far left

Okay. Here's the problem, though: you don't know what either of those terms mean.

Kasich has a nice way of speaking; but his actual policies are firmly right-wing, I don't really understand all the love for him in the middle or on the left.

and oh ya if your center right or centrist kasich was the best guy in this election period

If you're actually a centrist, then Hillary is the best candidate in this election. Period.

Kasich being some sort of a moderate is a joke. He's just a "soothing Midwesterner" which made him look sane next to the loons he was on stage with.

Moderate Hero is really challenged when it comes to the whole ideological thing. He's literally said that Wall St. stooge Clinton is firmly on the left, while crown prince of the Tea Party Marco Rubio is "centre-right". In addition to this, despite being a self proclaimed "Moderate Hero", he's a YUGE fan of Narendra Modi.

Modi is the Reagan and Thatcher(my two favorite leaders of the past 50 years) of India. Plus there are many world politicians   since the 80s i like more then Modi:

Reagan
Thatcher
HW Bush
Bill Clinton(1994-2000 version)
David Cameron
John Kasich



If Reagan, Modi, and Thatcher are your three favorite politicians, then you are nowhere near "moderate".

Modi isnt in my top 3 and I know Reagan isnt moderate but in today's republican party he would be considered one.Again my atlas name is mocking how far right todays gop went more then actully reflecting me. If Kasich was the nominee I would have changed my screen name.

My screen name was Moderate Hero Republican in the Primaries since trump won the nomination i got rid of the republican part of it
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2016, 07:40:12 PM »

And to RINO Kasich: Don't let the door hit you on the way out, renegade!

says the guy who supports the person that called reagan a fraud,
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2016, 10:09:44 PM »

Empty threat. He won't leave the party until after his ridiculous presidential ambitions have passed him.

Well this is implying he is giving them till 2020
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2016, 10:51:34 PM »

If he is getting accused of being both a RINO and a far right conservative by Atlas posters, Kasich is doing something right.

And yes, he is right about the need to reform the GOP. The truth is that if the GOP had any brains, he would now be the nominee and running 10 points ahead of Clinton.
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2016, 01:19:32 PM »

Where's he gonna go?  The Democrats won't take him.  He's not going anywhere.

Create a new party along with the rest of center right or old school republicans . Once the GOP splits into two so will be Dems as they can't scare the Bernie wing of their party into supporting their Candidate and we may have real democracy where every ones views are covered . A leftist party a center left party a center right party and right wing party
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2016, 06:48:01 PM »

If he is getting accused of being both a RINO and a far right conservative by Atlas posters, Kasich is doing something right.

And yes, he is right about the need to reform the GOP. The truth is that if the GOP had any brains, he would now be the nominee and running 10 points ahead of Clinton.

Considering Clinton has been called everything from "left-wing" and "pandering to the Bernie far left" to "conservative neocon" and "far-right" on here, what does that make her?

A centrist?

Only in the sense that Donald Trump is a "centrist".  She's a moderate on economics, but an ultra-liberal on social issues.

Bill was moderate to center right on economic issues. Hillary was moderate to center left on economic issues but now is clearly more leftist then moderate on economic issues.
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