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« on: January 27, 2024, 01:46:39 PM »

The reason for this is way too much power for concentrated in these institutions and they started to overstep their authority. For example the EPA tried to implement a cap and trade system even though congress rejected such a system which is a clear sign that the EPA had moved away from just enforcing laws to creating them .

If you are gonna centralize power like this then yes it’s only fair the president gets their way because at least they are elected unlike all these bureaucrats. Of course their are some exceptions but the civil service should not act like it’s own branch of government under any circumstance.
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Computer89
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E: 3.42, S: 2.61

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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2024, 01:58:32 PM »

The reason for this is way too much power for concentrated in these institutions and they started to overstep their authority. For example the EPA tried to implement a cap and trade system even though congress rejected such a system which is a clear sign that the EPA had moved away from just enforcing laws to creating them .

If you are gonna centralize power like this then yes it’s only fair the president gets their way because at least they are elected unlike all these bureaucrats. Of course their are some exceptions but the civil service should not act like it’s own branch of government under any circumstance.

Why do you view bureaucrats doing this as a bad thing?

A Bunch of unelected bureaucrats should not have the power to make laws. That is not in their authority and thank god SCOTUS stopped them from doing so.
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Computer89
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E: 3.42, S: 2.61

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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2024, 06:20:45 PM »

The reason for this is way too much power for concentrated in these institutions and they started to overstep their authority. For example the EPA tried to implement a cap and trade system even though congress rejected such a system which is a clear sign that the EPA had moved away from just enforcing laws to creating them .

If you are gonna centralize power like this then yes it’s only fair the president gets their way because at least they are elected unlike all these bureaucrats. Of course their are some exceptions but the civil service should not act like it’s own branch of government under any circumstance.

"I support the return of the Spoils System because the civil service has too much power"

I can't see any contradiction with that line of thinking.

Both the President and the legislature are elected officials
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OSR stands with Israel
Computer89
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Posts: 45,148


Political Matrix
E: 3.42, S: 2.61

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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2024, 08:22:26 PM »

The reason for this is way too much power for concentrated in these institutions and they started to overstep their authority. For example the EPA tried to implement a cap and trade system even though congress rejected such a system which is a clear sign that the EPA had moved away from just enforcing laws to creating them .

If you are gonna centralize power like this then yes it’s only fair the president gets their way because at least they are elected unlike all these bureaucrats. Of course their are some exceptions but the civil service should not act like it’s own branch of government under any circumstance.

Why do you view bureaucrats doing this as a bad thing?

A Bunch of unelected bureaucrats should not have the power to make laws. That is not in their authority and thank god SCOTUS stopped them from doing so.

Hmmm...

Yes it’s their job to stop these agencies from abusing their power
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