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« on: June 23, 2016, 02:15:22 AM »

Yes it does...?  That's the whole point of the waiting period.  It allows the government to present proof that the person on the no fly list is too dangerous to purchase a gun.  It addresses exactly that.

Your answer was more of a cop-out.

The government presenting proof should occur when the person is initially put on the list. We need to improve the no-fly list; at the beginning. I think we can all agree on that. Cornyn's bill does not fix the initial mistakes.

This debate is about the ease of acquiring guns. It's ridiculously easy to the point that terrorists openly encouraged people to take advantage of it. Cornyn's bill and the other GOP bill did not go far enough. The defeat of these bills wasn't a "we need to do something, anything" because "something, anything" won't fix the easy access to guns.

Er, yeah, I agree that the government should have to present that proof when they initially put someone on the list, but the fact is they don't have to right now.  The Democrats bill doesn't address the problems with the No Fly List, in fact it just completely ignores them and bars anyone on it from buying a gun, whether or not the person is justified to be on the list at all.  Like I said, the Republican bill gives the government a 72 hour period to present their case for denying someone their 2nd amendment rights. The Democrats bill gives absolutely no checks to the governments list, despite the fact that you yourself are admitting that the list is flawed.


The Republicans say that a gun bill that prevents people from buying guns based on the inaccurate terror watch list and/or no fly list is unconstitutional. But, based on the United States vs Wheeler decision of 1920, the Supreme Court ruled that the Constitutional protections of Freedom of Movement also included the freedom to travel without unreasonable restrictions. So, based on that, the inaccurate terrorist watch list/no fly list should already be regarded as unconstitutional, and the government should have long ago been required to make it as accurate as possible.

Yet, the Republicans didn't seem to care about this violation of Constitutional protections at all. (I believe the ACLU has taken the government to court over the violation of the right to travel) and only now is concerned that the watch lists seem to have a lot of problems. So, we know the Republicans don't really care about the Constitution, just about the votes of gun nuts and pleasing the psychopaths in the NRA
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