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« on: January 14, 2017, 07:46:08 PM »
« edited: January 14, 2017, 07:48:26 PM by Intell »

Trump certainly does lack the legitimacy steaming from the popular vote win, while still being legally elected per archaic but still existing stystem.



Comparing a number of pieces left with a number of votes casted by actual people is quite hyperbolic.

Trump got much less votes than his opponent. I don't think anybody can dispute this. There's something weird, at best, to call one country's democratic, and yet have a system under which a man with less support becomes President. Trump has no popular mandate.

Of course, as I've been saying in other threads, you don't get to change rules during the game and he's legally President-elect. Doesn't mean we have to approve the system.

It is important to understand that our country is not a democracy. It is a Republic -  the founders wisely understood that democracy alone is mob rule. (Many would argue that democracy is not even a form of government - it is more a temporary transition into another form of government - usually an oligarchy or totalitarian form.)

The United States is exactly as it is named - a collection of states that are vaguely unified for a common purpose. But every state has it's own laws, rules, edict, and culture - and they all have their own separate interests as well. What is good for Idaho is different than what is good for New York, which is different than what is good for Texas.

It is for this reason that the electoral college exists - so that smaller population states don't get swamped by larger states without any real representation or power to prevent harmful laws to their states from being enacted. Essentially, the founders wanted to prevent the rise of concentrated, centralized power that is not representative of the rest of the nation.

The point is that our system of government makes it EXCEPTIONALLY hard to pass any wide-sweeping, dramatic change in our laws unless it has near unanimous support by ALL states in the country. This is a positive, not a negative - and is probably why our country has been so successful and survived so many historic events that would have toppled other governments.

CA and NY - certainly not representative of the nation as a whole - should not determine our nation's policy alone any more than Texas should. We are a collection of disparate states and all have a voice in this agreed upon union.

AMERICA IS NOT A DEMOCRACY BUT A REPUBLIC LOL.

It's like people don't understand the meanings of these two words, or what democracy actually is.

When america was founded, vast majorities of people, apart from the rich landowning elite couldn't vote, so of course it wasn't a democracy, so the founders supported a republic oligarchy instead of republican democracy.
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