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DavidB.
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« on: February 20, 2016, 12:03:24 PM »

Until when can people vote? Would it be possible for Orthodox Jews to vote after shabbat?
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2016, 12:12:51 PM »
« Edited: February 20, 2016, 01:05:59 PM by DavidB. »

Until when can people vote? Would it be possible for Orthodox Jews to vote after shabbat?

IIRC the Nevada GOP did a special caucus for Orthodox Jews in 2012, I don't think Dems do that though.
For the GOP it isn't a problem this time, since they do it on February 23, but I see there isn't any possibility for Orthodox Jewish Dems to vote this time again. Which is bad.

Orthodox Jews shouldn't be Dems anyway, so I don't feel too bad for them, but still a dick move on the part of the Dems.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2016, 12:49:25 PM »

How much Jews does Nevada have? let alone orthodox ones
Not many, but that seems irrelevant. The Netherlands doesn't have many Orthodox Jews. Still, that's why we don't vote on Fridays and Saturdays.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2016, 01:03:37 PM »

Apparently there were 76,300 Jews in Nevada as of 2014.  That's nothing to sneeze at.
Didn't expect that, but indeed. Few of them will be Orthodox, but still I don't understand why the Dems don't organize something in order for them to be able to vote.
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2016, 01:12:15 PM »

I would say over 90% of Orthodox Jews in the US are Republicans, so I highly doubt there would be much Orthodox participation in the evening caucus.
Not true (sadly). It's much more equal.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2016, 01:18:34 PM »

Don't most Orthodox Jews live in the Northeast?

But if there are 76,300 Jews in Nevada we have to consider that:

1. Many are under 18 and thus cannot vote.
2. Some will just not be interested in voting.
3. Most will not be Orthodox
4: Most who are Orthodox will be Republican

So we're dealing with a very small number of people.  Of course, the Democrats absolutely should allow for early voting for them, but they just won't.  Muslims should also be allowed early voting if a primary or caucus is on Friday.  And if they ever have voting on Sunday I'd hope that Christians who don't believe in voting on Sundays (like myself) would be able to vote early.
I agree, which is why the Netherlands doesn't vote on Fridays, Saturdays or Sundays. It's not problem if we would, but then people should be allowed to vote early. The argument was never about the number -- indeed, the number of Orthodox Jewish Democrats in Nevada will likely be low... but that doesn't really matter, because this is about a principle: being as inclusive as possible.
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2016, 02:53:55 PM »

Why is joke pollster Overtime taken seriously here?
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2016, 03:00:29 PM »

This caucus disaster is better for Bernie.  Mature, older people have somewhere else to be and responsibilities.  The elderly can't stand out in a line in the hot sun for an hour or they'll die.  Easily-misled teenagers, on the other hand, are perfectly happy to stand in line for hours to vote for their lord and savior.
Also gives them the opportunity to relentlessly bully anyone who doesn't support Bernie, as we saw in Iowa.
/hackery
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DavidB.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2016, 03:31:33 PM »

CNN saying that Sanders is winning latinos by 11 points.
Very nice.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2016, 03:34:21 PM »

I really, really hope Bernie will win this. Would be amazing.
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2016, 04:32:05 PM »

Clinton's going to win this.
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2016, 04:35:44 PM »

Sad please let sanders have this
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2016, 04:43:43 PM »

If Sanders isn't winning this is going to be very disappointing.
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2016, 04:45:01 PM »

Clinton leading in Clark, which is 55-45 Clinton now, doesn't bode well...
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2016, 04:46:32 PM »

Does anyone have a CNN livestream? The official site won't work because I'm not an American.
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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2016, 04:47:53 PM »

Dumbass college students getting in a live argument on CNN.

Chill dude. It is a way more informed and intelligent discussion about politics than most people would have, if they even cared.

Sorry, but when I want to listen to people yelling at each other but saying nothing, I come here and join in myself. I don't want to see it on CNN. Tongue

Then turn it off. You have no business name-calling them behind their backs, here or anywhere.
Uh, wtf? If these people are on live tv then everybody has the right to talk about them in whatever way they want.
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2016, 04:49:23 PM »

Thank you very much!
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DavidB.
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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2016, 04:49:45 PM »

Dumbass college students getting in a live argument on CNN.

Chill dude. It is a way more informed and intelligent discussion about politics than most people would have, if they even cared.

Sorry, but when I want to listen to people yelling at each other but saying nothing, I come here and join in myself. I don't want to see it on CNN. Tongue

Then turn it off. You have no business name-calling them behind their backs, here or anywhere.
Uh, wtf? If these people are on live tv then everybody has the right to talk about them in whatever way they want.

A legal right, sure.
A moral right too. Why wouldn't one have the moral right to criticize people on tv?
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2016, 04:52:59 PM »

He called them dumbasses. That goes beyond simple criticism. They didn't try to get on TV. They decided not to run away when they were filmed.
Hmmm, that last point is fair. It's probably rude and unwarranted. But still I think everyone has the "moral right" to criticize everyone on tv.
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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2016, 04:55:03 PM »

In Poland it is.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2016, 05:03:45 PM »

Wow.
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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2016, 05:04:33 PM »

52-47.9 now @ CNN
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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2016, 05:05:59 PM »

well, this is a shame.
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« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2016, 05:13:05 PM »

G-d, the forum Shillaries are going to be even more insufferable in the coming days.
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« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2016, 05:15:51 PM »

If it wasn't for the exit poll I wouldn't have been disappointed, but now I am. Thanks for nothing, CNN.
This.
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