King David Hotel Bombing - Terrorist Attack or Not?

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Nope it wasn't, and even if it was it was justified.

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My Justification for it: The British blocked passage of hundreds of thousands of Jews from entering the region, and sent them back to Europe (aka to their deaths)  and also this didn't help at all either: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Agatha

The British started playing games with both the Jews and Arabs, which, in my opinion, became a major catalyst of the Israel-Arab (and later Israeli-Palestinian) conflict. An accumulation of horrible decisions by the UK allowed for this attack to be even possible.

I think Irgun went too far in a lot of it's attacks, but this one was perfectly justified.

British military forces had no intention of having any actual solution to the mess they created in the Mandate of Palestine.

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Nope it wasn't, and even if it was it was justified.

Lol.

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Yes, killing 90 civilians to cover up evidence of your past crimes is totally justified. Because Hitler.

I forgot, trying to have a homeland after thousands of years of persecution is a "crime." Zionism wasn't a thing "because Hitler" you clown.

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I'm not expecting to be in the majority here, nor am I trying to convince others of my opinion. But, to brush this off as "crazy people being crazy" is historically inaccurate.

There's a reason this happened and that reason is British incompetence and dishonesty. Of course, the civilian lives were tragic and a stain on Irgun and it's leaders. But, the stain on the UK for how many more Jews died in the holocaust because of British restrictions on immigration or because of destructive rule over the mandate is ten times the size.

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Considering my grandad was staying in the building, can you tell me why someone who served in France and Germany to stop the holocaust is a legitimate target? Real question

Few British soldiers served in France and Germany in order to stop the Holocaust...

It was a British mandate, meaning that the British had every right, and a moral responsibility to police it. No doubt if we just cleared out after 1945 you'd attack us for not intervening, and helping.

No, the British had absolutely no right to be there in the first place. Not in 1929, not in 1936, not in 1945 and certainly not in 1948.

After WWI, Britain implicitly backtracked on its commitment to creating a Jewish national home in Israel, silently allowing Arabs to attack Jews all the time from the beginning of British rule over the Land, particularly in 1920, in 1929 and from 1936 onward. For instance, the Brits had allowed Arabs to attack the village of Rosh Pina for months, but when Shlomo Ben Yosef attacked Arabs who were preparing attacks on the village, he was hanged.

During WWII, some Jews managed to embark upon ships to the Land of Israel right after being saved from Auschwitz; the Brits rather let them die than had them enter the Land of Israel. For instance, the Struma carried almost 800 Jews; the Brits declined access to Israeli ports, and then the ship sunk.

The Brits were the ones who flogged Jews that didn't listen to them. The Brits were the ones who sent to the gallows Avshalom Habib, Meir Naqar and Yaaqov Weiss, among many other Jews who resisted their violent, anti-Semitic occupation of Israel. Violence should always be an option of last resort, but given the dire situation in Israel I fully support the Irgun's heroes in their efforts to liberate Israel.

(And the ones who disagree with this are generally the ones who do fully support, for instance, the Vietnamese people's and the Algerian people's right to resist French colonialism; I have yet to meet the first person who can convince me that this case is any different.)

Great post as usual. Israel and Jews are often held to a different standard by European elites when compared to other resistance movements.

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Horus is going back on ignore for the most ridiculous statement I have ever read in my life. I say this as a Mizrahi/Sephardic Jew.

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You would be one of the Mizrahim or the Sephardim.

My grandfather sometimes said he rather admired the early Zionists. They were mostly German or English or Austrian. They built an orderly, modern state from scratch. But then they had to go and bring your kind in.

It is absolutely disgusting the way they flew in those Jews from Yemen, ape-people who didn't even know how to use the toilets on the planes they flew them in on. And the Persians were just as bad. And then came the Russian gangsters.

And meanwhile my father's family's ancestral village, which used to be a civilized, Christian place, has been overrun by savage Mohammedans - the ones who stab people like you.

It's really shameful what your kind have done to the place.

Are you fycking drunk? That is literally the only reason I can think of for being so overtly racist when it comes to Mizrahim, and it doesn't make it any better. This line of reasoning almost makes me throw up.

I don't even respond to IndyTexas' stupidity. He's always been a lost cause. People like Horus bother me much more.

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I disagree strongly with Ernest's opinions, but I think he's a valuable poster here. I have no issues with him and enjoy reading some of his posts on different topics.

But, Horus and IndyTexas are different stories.

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Lol. It's like watching a person with a PCP addiction running wild. IndyTexas, I think you need to reevaluate your views. Living life full of hatred is not good for the soul.

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I don't even respond to IndyTexas' stupidity.

I did.  I reported it.  That sort of language he used about the Yemeni Jews has no place on this forum.

I'm merely pointing out the differences in bathroom habits of the various peoples of the Middle East in the early 20th century.

They didn't know how to use toilets then and if you go to Yemen today a good number of them still don't.

So sue me.

Clearly you have been drinking out of one to make disgusting comments like these.

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I don't even respond to IndyTexas' stupidity.

I did.  I reported it.  That sort of language he used about the Yemeni Jews has no place on this forum.

I'm merely pointing out the differences in bathroom habits of the various peoples of the Middle East in the early 20th century.

They didn't know how to use toilets then and if you go to Yemen today a good number of them still don't.

So sue me.

Clearly you have been drinking out of one to make disgusting comments like these.

Not Manischewitz, I'm afraid.

lmao.

I've given you enough attention for one night, I'm done here.

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Whoever mods this board, can this thread be closed? It's not going in a positive direction anytime soon, I'm afraid

Also, enjoy ignore, Indy.

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Whoever mods this board, can this thread be closed? It's not going in a positive direction anytime soon, I'm afraid

Also, enjoy ignore, Indy.

I guess I can lock it... This was intended to be a discussion on the King David Bombing and Netanyahu's comments of such.

yea, I thought it was decent thread. I enjoy conversations like this, even if it's diametrically opposed to my own viewpoints, but Indy (and Horus) completely hijacked it, sadly.