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Leinad
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.03, S: -7.91

« on: July 08, 2015, 06:23:27 PM »

Dissolving Atlasia without making any reforms is like not knowing how to drive and trying to solve the problem by buying a new car.

It's drastic action for the sake of drastic action. I don't even think there's a constitutional mechanism to even legally dissolve Atlasia.

I encourage all Senators to vote against this silly bill, for many of the reasons that have already been said in this thread. Dissolving Atlasia is the equivalent of a 4-year-old pitching a fit and throwing his food off the table. It's not how government needs to act. We need real solutions, this is frankly a waste of time.

Continuing for the sake of continuing is not wise.

I suppose not, but it's better than dissolution for the sake of dissolution.
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Leinad
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,049
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.03, S: -7.91

« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2015, 11:53:57 PM »

Here's an interesting exchange from the Senate floor:

Speaking not as a legal expert, it seems to me if the constitution was completely wiped the whole country would be dissolved, seeing as the constitution is what gives various positions their legitimacy.
I wonder if the regions would be dissolved as well, or they would become de facto separate and independent entities.
I want clarification on this matter. I would support this amendment if that is the case, because that paradigm would be awesome. Smiley

So, does anyone have clarification? Independent regions might be fun. We could all do our own thing, put different controls on immigration, make different governments, sign treaties with each other, perhaps create an EU-like agreement between us, and if we like it better the old way, unite again as Atlasia.

However, for the same reason I don't think a parliamentary system would work, I don't think this would work, either. We need to keep it similar enough to the US to hold interest on the US Election Atlas forum.
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Leinad
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,049
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.03, S: -7.91

« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2015, 04:04:42 PM »

However, for the same reason I don't think a parliamentary system would work, I don't think this would work, either. We need to keep it similar enough to the US to hold interest on the US Election Atlas forum.
I like nothing more than a functional parliamentary system. I don't think that keeping this game modeled on the U.S., just because it's the "U.S. Election Atlas" is a right approach. We need to have an ability to develop our unique identity, instead of following one template.

However (I believe it was Oakvale that pointed this out one day on IRC), we're not big enough to adopt a functional parliamentarism, that is we're not large enough to be able to crave out working parliamentary constituencies.

For better or worse, we are a US-centered site. I'd actually probably be the only American interested in a parliamentary game. There are lots of international members, such as the President, Blair, yourself, and, really, countless others, but I still think a majority (or at least plurality) of the members and potential members are American, and most of that group wouldn't be interested in an elections/government game not based on the US.

Even if we were to implement a parliamentary system, dissolution is NOT the way to do that. In fact, it won't accomplish anything of any good whatsoever.
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