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Figueira
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« on: September 03, 2015, 11:32:29 AM »

If the alternative is Sanders or Biden, then she is unquestionably still the best option.

What should really have you worried is that there is literally no one of equal quality to fill the void should Hillary implode.
A Vice President of the United States, 36 Year Senator of Delaware. A Former Mayor of Burlington, Congressman, and Senator of Vermont. A Former Mayor of Baltimore, and Governor of Maryland. A Former Sec. of The Navy and Former Senator of Virginia. A Former Senator and Governor of Rhode Island.
Yup. No quality here, hun.

A Vice President of the United States...who compulsively puts his foot in his mouth.

A Senator from Vermont...who openly identifies as a socialist while apparently having no understanding of what that word means.

A former mayor of Baltimore and Governor of Maryland...who was succeeded by a Republican and  left office with a middling approval rating.

A former Secretary of  the Navy (under Reagan) and former (one term) Senator...who defends confederate "heritage".

A former Senator and Governor of Rhode Island...do I really need to explain why Lincoln Chafee is not a quality candidate?

There are much better criticisms of O'Malley than that.
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2015, 11:47:08 AM »

If the alternative is Sanders or Biden, then she is unquestionably still the best option.

What should really have you worried is that there is literally no one of equal quality to fill the void should Hillary implode.
A Vice President of the United States, 36 Year Senator of Delaware. A Former Mayor of Burlington, Congressman, and Senator of Vermont. A Former Mayor of Baltimore, and Governor of Maryland. A Former Sec. of The Navy and Former Senator of Virginia. A Former Senator and Governor of Rhode Island.
Yup. No quality here, hun.

A Vice President of the United States...who compulsively puts his foot in his mouth.

A Senator from Vermont...who openly identifies as a socialist while apparently having no understanding of what that word means.

A former mayor of Baltimore and Governor of Maryland...who was succeeded by a Republican and  left office with a middling approval rating.

A former Secretary of  the Navy (under Reagan) and former (one term) Senator...who defends confederate "heritage".

A former Senator and Governor of Rhode Island...do I really need to explain why Lincoln Chafee is not a quality candidate?

1. And Hillary has never made a gaffe?

2. *Democratic-Socialist, and I'm thinking by your reply you don't know that is.

3.  2014 - Republican Wave, Low Turnout, Blah Blah Blah. Really wasn't all O'Malley's fault, I'll leave his defense to Dimpled though.

4. Yeah, I know, damn southerner! No politician in their right mind would defend the confederate flag and especially not use it in campaign memorabilia...


5. Hey, he voted against the Iraq war... Can't say the same for peacenik Hillary though...

They aren't all the best cherries in the field, (trying to get my phrase to catch on) but they are "quality".

3. That would be a decent argument if we weren't talking about Maryland.

Maryland elected Bob Ehrlich, and also: Anthony Brown led a piss poor campaign. Plus, low turnout and GOP wave are legitimate points, even in Maryland. Do you blame Baker's victory in Massachusetts on Deval Patrick?

Massachusetts I blame on Martha Coakley, who apparantly couldn't win an election if she were running against NOTA. Besides that, Patrick was the onlg Democratic governor of Massachusetts since Dukakis left office in 1991—so its not like Baker winning was unprecedented. For comparison Ehrlich, who only served a single term, was the first Republican governor of Maryland since Spiro Agnew left office in 1969.

Are you trying to make the argument that Maryland is more liberal than Massachusetts?

I don't know if it's more liberal, but to be fair, it's more democratic when it comes to gubernatorial elections.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2015, 11:52:21 AM »

A former mayor of Baltimore and Governor of Maryland...who was succeeded by a Republican and left office with a middling approval rating.

There are much better criticisms of O'Malley than that.

I'd love to hear them.

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/04/29/david-simon-on-baltimore-s-anguish

By the way, if you have a response to that I'd love to hear it.
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2015, 04:08:59 PM »

A former mayor of Baltimore and Governor of Maryland...who was succeeded by a Republican and left office with a middling approval rating.

There are much better criticisms of O'Malley than that.

I'd love to hear them.

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/04/29/david-simon-on-baltimore-s-anguish

By the way, if you have a response to that I'd love to hear it.

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-05-15/david-simon-is-wrong-about-baltimore-arrests

If you have a response to this, I'd love to hear it.

That doesn't seem to address whether the mass arrests happened. It just says that they weren't the cause of the recent riots.

However, I'm finding mixed things about this online. Does anyone have any info on O'Malley's "mass arrests" in Baltimore?
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