For women only: Would you vote for Trump or a practicing Muslim?

[Figueira]

Not a woman, but I would think it depends on the extent of what "practicing" means. I would be very scared of voting for someone who follows the Quran 100% of the time (for woman-related and non-woman-related reasons), but there's nothing wrong with praying five times a day and such.

[Figueira]

I would be very scared of voting for someone who follows the Quran 100% of the time (for woman-related and non-woman-related reasons)...

But you would be cool with someone who follows the Bible 100% of the time (ie making his wife call him master and submit to him in all things and calling women "weak")?

No, of course not. Or the Vedas, or whatever. Honestly, even if there was nothing objectionable in those texts, basing your entire belief system on a single text makes you unfit to be President IMO.

I actually considered adding an "(or the Bible)" to my post, but I was worried that I would get an angry stream of "WHY WOULD YOU MENTION THE BIBLE THIS IS THE MUSLIM BASHING THREAD" posts, so I decided against it. Maybe I should have put it there, in retrospect.

Also FWIW I'm a Jewish agnostic.

[Figueira]

Not a woman, but I would think it depends on the extent of what "practicing" means. I would be very scared of voting for someone who follows the Quran 100% of the time (for woman-related and non-woman-related reasons), but there's nothing wrong with praying five times a day and such.

Are you aware of this quote and what do you think of it as it applies to what you wrote?

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein

Regards
DL

They're doing it because they see value in following the rules of a religion. Considering that that particular rule is harmless, I don't see a problem with it.

Also Einstein didn't say that, and that's a stupid quote anyway.

@shua, taking the term "homophobia" literally got old, like, twenty years ago.

[Figueira]

Not a woman, but I would think it depends on the extent of what "practicing" means. I would be very scared of voting for someone who follows the Quran 100% of the time (for woman-related and non-woman-related reasons), but there's nothing wrong with praying five times a day and such.

Are you aware of this quote and what do you think of it as it applies to what you wrote?

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein

Regards
DL

They're doing it because they see value in following the rules of a religion. Considering that that particular rule is harmless, I don't see a problem with it.

Also Einstein didn't say that, and that's a stupid quote anyway.

@shua, taking the term "homophobia" literally got old, like, twenty years ago.

Words having meanings rather than just being thrown around for purposes of identity politics got old a long time ago, I realize this.   I am trying to salvage some vestige of civilization here, though I realize it may be a lost cause.

Language changes. Get used to it. Homophobia means bigotry against gay people. The only reason you care about this and not the countless other words that don't mean exactly what their etymology says they should is because your entire purpose on this forum is being "that guy" in LGBT-related discussions.

[Figueira]

TBH, I also find the use of "phobia" in terms like "homophobia" and "Islamophobia" to be kind of dumb.  It doesn't really match what the suffix usually means.

Sure, but it matches what everyone knows the word "homophobia" means.

[Figueira]

Not a woman, but I would think it depends on the extent of what "practicing" means. I would be very scared of voting for someone who follows the Quran 100% of the time (for woman-related and non-woman-related reasons), but there's nothing wrong with praying five times a day and such.

Are you aware of this quote and what do you think of it as it applies to what you wrote?

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein

Regards
DL

They're doing it because they see value in following the rules of a religion. Considering that that particular rule is harmless, I don't see a problem with it.

Also Einstein didn't say that, and that's a stupid quote anyway.

@shua, taking the term "homophobia" literally got old, like, twenty years ago.

Words having meanings rather than just being thrown around for purposes of identity politics got old a long time ago, I realize this.   I am trying to salvage some vestige of civilization here, though I realize it may be a lost cause.

Language changes. Get used to it. Homophobia means bigotry against gay people. The only reason you care about this and not the countless other words that don't mean exactly what their etymology says they should is because your entire purpose on this forum is being "that guy" in LGBT-related discussions.

I have no idea who you are and you clearly have not a clue who I am either, so how about dropping the sorry attempts at ad hominems? 

But it is clear that like so many others, the only reason you use words like "homophobia" to describe things completely unrelated to phobias is because you wanted to score a cheap point against someone you don't like by giving them a pseudo-clinical label instead of discussing ideas on the merits.   I'm not going to get used to that sort of thing.  I'm not going to just roll over so that the self-righteous can throw around big words thoughtlessly in order to make a mockery out of the ability to actually discuss things.

I didn't invent the word homophobia. Stop acting like I invented it specifically to insult you. If you have an issue with it, take it up with George Weinberg, the person who coined it.

The only posts I've seen of yours on this forum have been defending homophobes and transphobes from criticism. I'm not sure if you're actually one of them or if you're just playing devil's advocate, but there's clearly a pattern here.