Obama vetoes 9/11 bill (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
June 10, 2024, 11:18:16 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  U.S. General Discussion (Moderators: The Dowager Mod, Chancellor Tanterterg)
  Obama vetoes 9/11 bill (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Obama vetoes 9/11 bill  (Read 4359 times)
Lyin' Steve
SteveMcQueen
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 3,310


« on: September 24, 2016, 12:37:03 PM »

This may be the dumbest bill of all time.  I wish Obama had a Tinder-esque super-veto that he could use once a year to stop particularly stupid bills without any override.

We have international courts for international legal action... domestic courts have absolutely no sovereignty over foreign nations or foreign nationals, so any ruling would be useless except for propaganda and stirring-up-sh**t purposes... but as others have pointed out, we're also basically rubber-stamping any other country that decides to take this same route to create propaganda and stir up sh**t against us.
Logged
Lyin' Steve
SteveMcQueen
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 3,310


« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2016, 11:39:59 PM »

There's such a strange dynamic going on here. It seems like opposition to this bill is unanimous: Obama, the CIA, the New York Times, a bunch of former US national security experts, the Kuwaiti government, and many others have all put out statements in opposition to JASTA. Yet in spite of this wall of opposition, the entire Senate remains completely united in passing it. What's going on here?


Also here is Cornyn's argument for passing JASTA and it's pretty convincing.

Yeah, I'm largely convinced by Cornyn. Obama goofed here.

Cornyn conflates this bill with FSIA, which holds foreign nations responsible for their diplomatically-immune citizens on U.S. soil.  Suing Saudi Arabia because one of its diplomats stole a purse is entirely different from suing Saudi Arabia because you suspect that someone in the Saudi government was connected to terrorism on American soil and therefore the whole government is responsible.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.022 seconds with 13 queries.