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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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« on: November 06, 2015, 02:40:42 AM »

Is foreign interventionism liberal or conservative?

"We must use force to keep America safe from external threats" - Conservative interventionist

"America has a leading role in keeping the world safe from extremism and poverty" - Liberal interventionist

"..I don't want to run the world. The Constitution doesn't give me the authority to run the world. We ought to mind our own business, is what we need to do. With all this spending overseas, wasted money..." - Conservative isolationist


And of course everyone already knows what a liberal isolationist is.

It's somewhat easier to be a conservative than a liberal if you're a war hawk.

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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2015, 04:58:53 AM »

It's somewhat easier to be a conservative than a liberal if you're a war hawk.

Hillary is not a war Hawk, it just deteriorates the debate inmensely by claiming that. Sure, she's less isolationist than Obama, and much more so than Sanders and Rand Paul, both of whom would like to see USA shut out of the rest of the world, like was it an electric circuit. But except for Rand Paul, every single one of the 14 (17) Republican presidential candidates this year are much more war hawks than Hillary will ever be.

You seem to believe I was implying something that I wasn't. I do think Hillary is less of a dove than Sanders, obviously, but my comment didn't have anything to do with her. What I was really trying to illustrate is that, right now, while interventionism vs. isolationism is not exactly on the same scale as conservatism vs. liberalism, the GOP electorate is more inclined to be hawkish than the Dem electorate. Jim Webb's comment about personally killing a communist would have been met with at least some applause at a GOP debate but was dead in the water at the Democratic debate.
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