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Taco Truck 🚚
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« on: October 15, 2015, 12:31:49 PM »

The thing you all need to understand about this particular bombing strategy is that the whole point was to kill large numbers of civilians (the theory advanced was that this would lead to a collapse in morale and so hasten the end of the war, which was... remarkable... given that its principle advocates were senior bods in the RAF who had surely noted that this was not what had happened when British cities were subjected to intensive bombing) and that it was a complete failure in all respects other than the body count, actually having the opposite effect to what was intended.

Additionally, just because one side commits atrocities does not negate the atrocities (which may well have been considerably worse, as they were in this instance) committed by the other. There is no need to defend appalling actions committed seventy years ago out of nervousness as to what the implications of doing so might be.

True... but the RAF's heart was in the right place even if their actions in retrospect were wrong.

I don't really see the benefit of trying to apply modern morals to a very imprecise war over half a century ago.  I mean Germany didn't have segregated units... the United States did.  No one is saying the Allies were perfect.  After the debacle in the other thread where some people were taking out a tape measure to figure out the square footage of concentration camps liberate so they could award bragging rights via a medal system I just don't know what the point it is.

I mean really.  So what?  Warfare for the US and Britain has gotten a lot more civilized... if you can say that about war.  Why go back and split hairs?  I know the evil stuff people did right here in America in the 1940s.  I'm sure going to war didn't improve their sense of morality.
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Schadenfreude
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2015, 01:33:45 PM »

Some people seem to think attacking Allied policy is automatically saying something ridiculous like "both sides were as bad as the other". It's not, it's a reflection that we can look back at our history and recognise our own nations did some appalling stunts to little meaningful effect,

Yeah, but I think we all realize the average person on the planet in the 1940s was an asshole by modern standards.

True... but the RAF's heart was in the right place even if their actions in retrospect were wrong.

WTF "their heart was in the right place".

I was being flippant.  The RAF was trying in a misguided way to end an attack on their country.  They were not genocidal maniacs trying to conquer the world... Not to ignore the world conquering efforts of the British in the previous few hundred years.
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2015, 02:40:18 PM »


Discussing is one thing.  Flying into a rage and banging out a screed on the internet is another.

Unfortunately the world isn't black and white.  And war certainly isn't black and white.  And analyzing a war from over half a century ago is certainly not black and white.  If you have a forum consensus that knowing what we know now that action was wrong why beat us all over the head trying to get us to all froth at the mouth and call it a war crime?  What are you hoping to accomplish?
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