I support the first two and wouldn't really care either way about the next three. That being said,
History is history.......erasing it to pretend it didn't happen is silly. So is taking down statues, which are not necessarily put up to honor, but to remember.
Taking down the statues doesn't mean they're pretending it didn't happen. I think that there are just better ways of remembering the Confederacy anyway. Children still learn about history in schools and anyone can go to a museum, which is where these statues belong. And if they were erected to remember, then why were so many erected at the same time Jim Crow was being enacted?
The majority of the people in the towns where these statues are located pass by them every day without much of a second thought, and have done so for years.
If they're just passing by them "without much of a second thought", there's not much remembering of history going on, which really defeats the supposed purpose.
Taking them down because of a very small group of people making up bogus claims of feeling "oppressed" because a statue of a historical figure exists is a very slippery slope that we should not be making a path towards.
You're better than this, fhtagn. You can have rational arguments without claiming the opposition is completely made up of people with "bogus" feelings. And it's not a small group of people either. In Charlottesville for example, a real person with real feelings wrote this last year:
She also started a petition to remove the statue which got hundreds of signatures. (
Source)
(And if the only people who notice the statues are outraged by it that's not a good point in favor of the statues.)
Where does it stop? Because it's fairly obvious that once the Confederate statues are gone, they will find something else that makes them feel "oppressed". And there have been many instances of people pushing to remove statues and rename things after ALL slave owners, which include America's founding fathers.
It's not like everyone who wants to take down Confederate statues also wants to take down statues of Jefferson and Washington. There are lots of people with nuances in their opinions. There is a reason the attempts at removing the traces of our founding fathers have been rarer and less successful and will continue to be that way.
I mean if we are basing our arguments off "things racist people said"...
Did Lincoln ever act upon that? There is a difference between people who started a war in order to keep slaves and the people who stopped them.
We should probably stop pretending that the Union treated blacks as equals.
They didn't and we don't, but black people weren't trying to escape from the North to the South that often. Just saying.
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