turnout reports, voting problems, and last minute dirty tricks

[Mallow]

Line was longer than it was in 2012 here, but I think I was there later in the day that time. Went in around 9AM this morning, and it was about an hour before I was finished voting.

[Mallow]

Lol

Hoping this pic gets around to the wives of the men who are voting for Trump.

[Mallow]

CNN is saying that Macomb County MI is on track for 1980 turnout

What does that even mean?

It means that things are probably looking up for Trump in Michigan. Macomb is the sort of place Trump has been focusing really hard on winning, lots of blue collar workers, mostly uneducated,  leans a bit towards the Republicans even when they don't run a candidate basically designed for them.

Mark my words, Trump will overperform in Michigan, though whether that will be enough to actually win the state depends on his overall performance.

I remember much ado being made about Macomb in 2012. Didn't amount to much and Obama won Michigan more than comfortably.

Obama had the benefit of an inflated AA vote in the Midwest, not to mention that Trump has way more appeal to blue collar whites than Romney ever did.

Take a regular Michigan election, significantly reduce AA turnout, increase turnout everywhere else, and give the Republican an advantage with uneducated whites. That's a recipe for a close election in Michigan, and it's what seems to be happening right now. The only real upside Hillary has over Obama in Michigan is the possibility of higher college educated white support, something that might give her the win but won't give her the sort of margin a Democrat should expect from Michigan.

You just contradicted yourself. If you're comparing to 2008/2012, by your own logic, you're not comparing to a "regular election". Even in 2000, Gore won the state by 5%. And it's unlikely black turnout will be as low as it was in the 2000 election.

[Mallow]

CNN is saying that Macomb County MI is on track for 1980 turnout

What does that even mean?

It means that things are probably looking up for Trump in Michigan. Macomb is the sort of place Trump has been focusing really hard on winning, lots of blue collar workers, mostly uneducated,  leans a bit towards the Republicans even when they don't run a candidate basically designed for them.

Mark my words, Trump will overperform in Michigan, though whether that will be enough to actually win the state depends on his overall performance.

I remember much ado being made about Macomb in 2012. Didn't amount to much and Obama won Michigan more than comfortably.

Obama had the benefit of an inflated AA vote in the Midwest, not to mention that Trump has way more appeal to blue collar whites than Romney ever did.

Take a regular Michigan election, significantly reduce AA turnout, increase turnout everywhere else, and give the Republican an advantage with uneducated whites. That's a recipe for a close election in Michigan, and it's what seems to be happening right now. The only real upside Hillary has over Obama in Michigan is the possibility of higher college educated white support, something that might give her the win but won't give her the sort of margin a Democrat should expect from Michigan.

You just contradicted yourself. If you're comparing to 2008/2012, by your own logic, you're not comparing to a "regular election". Even in 2000, Gore won the state by 5%. And it's highly unlikely black turnout will be as low as it was in that election.

George Bush wasn't running on a "NAFTA was bad" Pat Buchanan style platform.

Is that worth a five point swing? I'm not convinced.