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Terry the Fat Shark
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« on: September 30, 2016, 11:00:38 PM »

Congratulations! This is a great appointment, Siren was a great Speaker and will do a great job in the House!
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Terry the Fat Shark
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2016, 06:41:48 PM »

Low Energy Blair takes 1 hour to fact check!
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Terry the Fat Shark
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2017, 05:18:09 PM »

Speaker Drew is hereby appointed to the House of Representatives, to fill the vacancy of 1184AZ
 
Very good appointment, look forward to working with him Cheesy
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Terry the Fat Shark
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2017, 10:57:39 PM »

Okay, here's my two cents:

The issue here IS NOT how AZ voted, even though it is shocking, saddening and ironic that he would vote for a guy he attempted to banish from this party. We are a party of many ideas and backgrounds, and I do not expect any of us to all agree on one candidate. This is about the basic trust between what I consider to be our Labor family.

There are already multiple examples of statements made by AZ, against many of our party (including myself), even supposed coup attempts, defamation of character, upon the multitudes of other things that are just, to put it in simple terms "not nice". And these range from small to large, annoying to terrifying, upsetting to depressing, what have you. But the fundamental question we're debating here is, how far is too far, and if this doesn't - what does qualify someone for being kicked out of a party.

First off, why I think this has hit a nerve for those that have supported a vote against Mr. AZ, is the real lack of respect many have for those that try to get them elected. AZ has run multiple times for Congress, and many have spent hours of their lives attempting to get him elected, because we are a family and we work for the benefit of each other. And I am again, not saying, that we all have to agree or because of those person's efforts, do their bidding. No. It's just basic respect, like not backstabbing those individuals, or purposefully doing harm to them. Mr. AZ has broken this basic bond of respect.

But I think this underscores a bigger issue than just AZ, or any individual. Where does anyone draw the line. If consistently voting against (and leaving) a party, being pretty much beholden to the opposition, ignoring inquires in basic attempts at communication from other members of the party, and lying about the rationale. Like, I really do not think we'd have had a problem had AZ said to me or somebody, "Hey I am planning on voting for X Federalist (non-Laborite), thoughts?" Or something along those lines. Of course, the response would be of the "here's why not or why this (Labor) candidate". But at least there is discussion, and attempts at respect on all sides.

Currently, if it does come to a vote, I'll vote against just because of the slight glimmering hope that AZ comes to his senses and realizes the seeming manipulation of himself by those that seek Labor's pain. And due to my disinterest with setting precedent by shutting people out of the party (if we couldn't even get Santander out, I just don't want to start) But you can best bet, that if he stays in the party, and continues this path -  he can say goodbye to any chance at being elected with it's endorsement or members.
He already left the party Tongue
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