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« on: July 22, 2016, 02:15:05 PM »
« edited: July 22, 2016, 02:17:15 PM by Virginia »

There are better ways to prevent voter fraud that don't involve disenfranchising people without IDs. Has it every occurred to some of you why Republicans create strict photo id laws and then make no real effort to get everyone an ID? Republicans aren't doing this because they actually care about real, existing fraud. They know there is no proof of this. These laws are meant to boost their electoral prospects, just like Democrats try to expand voting rights to boost theirs.

1. Why not take a picture of people without an ID at the polls and save it to cross-check with other people who vote. Use technology to prevent double voters. I believe NH at least saves pictures of people w/o ID for future investigations, if needed.

2. Maintain a national database (as Adam said) that records who everyone who votes in real time, then cross-check with other people who vote so that no one can vote twice.

3. Work on getting everyone IDs, including giving every single student a photo ID upon leaving both HS and college, and allowing free and easy replacements by mail and/or whenever state/federal agencies. The point is to ensure everyone has an ID that is free of charge and does not require extraordinary and costly efforts to track down documents people not have.

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You know what a big problem here is? Republicans have only introduced restrictions, year after year, and have made very little, if any efforts to expand voting rights/services. If you introduce a measure that might reduce turnout, balance it with something that will increase it. If you're in Virginia and pass an ID law (like Republicans did), then balance it with automatic voter registration. At least WV did this. Further, don't just pass restrictions that aren't needed or won't solve the issue. If there is very little voter fraud, why are Republicans passing restrictions as if it was the biggest issue of the 21st century?

There is a reason Republicans only pass restrictions - Because they are trying to game the system to reduce turnout from Democratic-leaning constituencies. Can we at least admit that? Numerous officials have been caught on record saying as much. (Just a few: Source 1 Source 2 Source 3 Source 4)

There are much better ideas out there than photo ID, so why is it Republicans focus so much on this and not one bit on other ideas? Gee, I wonder if it has anything to do with minorities and young people disproportionately lacking IDs...

Oh, and voter ID does reduce turnout:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/04/new-evidence-that-voter-id-laws-skew-democracy-in-favor-of-white-republicans/
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Virginiá
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2016, 01:12:33 PM »

Well then, d***it, why did Illinois have to have a constitutional amendment creating a right to vote in 2014?

My apologies for being so low-information about this.

It was a response to Republican efforts nationwide to restrict voting. Any lawmakers/party trying to restrict voting in Illinois by any measures, such as repealing same day registration and/or instituting voter ID would likely see their efforts fail due to this amendment.

Personally I welcome such an amendment, even if Republicans have no real chance of taking over the IL legislature anytime soon. Every state should have this kind of amendment passed if you ask me. I am actually sort of surprised more Democratic states aren't pushing similar measures, but then again, they might not see the point.
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