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Joe Biden 2020
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« on: April 27, 2005, 01:06:02 PM »

Tom Coburn would have beat either of them and did beat one of them.  I can see Dan Boren challenging him in 2010 or challenging Jim Inhofe in 2008.

He is really respected and well liked in Eastern Oklahoma CD 2 (Tulsa area).  He was a medical doctor before coming into politics, much like Bill Frist.  The only small skeleton in his closet is he allegedly performed an abortion while in practice and then ran against abortion in the Senatorial race vacated by Sen. Don Nickles.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2005, 01:48:08 PM »

No. If a candidate as good as Carson couldn't win, I'm afraid no one could have.
And I hate to disagree, Sam, but I think that issue would be a major one. Republicans down south are two-issue Republicans: abortion and gay marriage, as you probably know, and I think anything that implicates a candidate in an abortion scandal would definitely hurt that candidate a lot.

I agree with Sam, the skeleton won't be that big of an issue in 2010.  People here in Oklahoma might forget about the skeleton in another 5 years, even though its a major issue in the South.  We haven't heard much from Coburn in the last 3 months, but its still really early.  Oklahoman's are a pretty forgiving people.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2005, 01:48:56 PM »

Are we talking former Senator Boren or his son here?

David Boren is the former Senator and current Univ of Oklahoma President
Dan Boren is his son, the current Congressman from District 2.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2005, 01:55:20 PM »

No. If a candidate as good as Carson couldn't win, I'm afraid no one could have.
And I hate to disagree, Sam, but I think that issue would be a major one. Republicans down south are two-issue Republicans: abortion and gay marriage, as you probably know, and I think anything that implicates a candidate in an abortion scandal would definitely hurt that candidate a lot.

I'm not saying it's not that big of an issue to Oklahomans, ian. I'm just saying that it won't have much effect on any potential election because it's been brought up before and it'll be familiar to voters.

For example, the fact that Senator Conrad Burns said in 1988 that he would only run for two terms was a very key factor in him almost getting ousted in 2000. Other things may have an effect on his race in 2006, but that issue will not be an issue then probably, at all.

One of Tom Coburn's biggest campaign promises is that he would spend maximum two terms in the Senate.  We'll have to wait until 2016 to see if he holds to his promise.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2005, 02:42:34 PM »

I will say this, he did hold up his promise of only serving three terms in the House before when he was a member. Few House members, with the exception of say a Mark Sanford, from the 1994 class held up their end of the bargain on that and I give him credit in that regard.

He sure did, which makes me believe he'll keep his promise 11 years from now.  But, again, thats 11 years down the road.
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2005, 03:00:12 PM »

Probably a more gracious loser if he had lost.  Brad Carson was very bitter after losing.  The Oklahoma Senate Race of 2004 had more mudslinging than the Presidential race.

I voted for Brad Carson, but lost some respect for him after he showed a sore loser.

Tom Coburn probably is the better candidate.
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2005, 05:26:52 AM »

The race would definitely have been closer.  Either of them could win.  Tom Coburn would be the most likely candidate to win because of his familiarity with Washington and her politics (he was the OK2 Representative in the late 1990s).  Dan Boren is only in his second term in the US House (also OK2), and only his 3rd year of any Washington political office.  It would have been a very close race anyway you look at it.
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