I think it's time we had another talk about the krazen situation

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Seriously.  I think it's time we seriously considered the value of keeping a poster who contributes little more than insults and personal attacks toward poors.

Who is this fellow and does he collect not one, not two, not three, but four forms of welfare?

Its a meme called "Scumbag Steve." Ah, I forgot you weren't very savvy when it comes to pop/meme culture. I suppose that tends to happen when you live in a neat little bubble. Anyway, the meme is often used to call out hypocrites.

In real life, its sounds like he goes to school and works. Of course, ill-informed people like you would very much like to label him otherwise based on superficial criteria.

Curious reference. Especially as this individual actively keeps an adult daughter out of work in order to keep the taxpayer spigot pumping the Koolaid.

krazen if you find this stuff so outrageous, why not just quit your job and live the life of luxury that below-poverty-level government benefits provide?

America is already overburdened by leeches.

Who is this fellow and does he collect not one, not two, not three, but four forms of welfare?

So now VA benefits are welfare?  So much for Republicans supporting the troops.

That would actually be number 5, even if you charitably referred to a nurse as a member of the troops. Number 4 is whatever sad sap got stuck paying for the astonishing medical cost of twice a week individual therapy.

These are all from the same page on the same thread.  I could probably fill the whole page with offensive things this individual's said, but I think that would be pointless seeing as how we all know this guy's character.

Also, notice that this is a thread about banning a certain user.  Not a petition, a thread, so that we may have a productive discussion about what's better for the forum in the long term.

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The way I see it, if PolitiJunkie gets banned, he should get banned to.

Keep in mind that PolitiJunkie was banned for making socks...

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I don't think it's unreasonable to compare "rich bashing" to, well, "white bashing."  Obviously racism is wrong.  Making generalizations about people is wrong - no matter who's getting attacked.  Race or class.  But I think there is significant ethical difference between saying nasty things about the poor and showing disdain towards the wealthier, better off of society.  Let me reiterate that I don't condemn any of it.  (In fact, I find opebo's 'guillotine' comments to be well overplayed.)

That isn't the thrust of the argument, though.  As Nathan said, it really comes down to rhetoric.  When you overtly belittle members of our armed forces or refer to the least fortunate of society as 'moochers' and 'leechers,' you cross a line.  And these aren't just isolated incidents.  Krazen does it every other day and uses anecdotes (NOT representative of the whole picture) to justify his hate.  I don't see why we can't treat those behaviors the same way we treat, say, sock-making.

There is no vendetta here against conservative Republicans.  I can name probably fifty users here who I disagree with most of the time and would never want them banned.  Why?  Because they are polite, well-mannered, and don't feel the need to resort to extreme rhetoric to get a point across.

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So if krazen lost his negative terms for poor folks, and just stuck to, say, e.g., the concept that the poor need the lash of putting their very survival a stake (well maybe keep the soup kitchens) to motivate them to change their condition (without characterizing their ethics), then there would be no problem with krazen - at least as to his very existence on the forum. Is that a fair statement of the position of some of you?

And meanwhile characterizing the ethics of rich folks is fair game I guess. No I am not whining about the latter. I can handle it (generally by ignoring it). I'm just exploring the parameters here.

For me, it is, yes.

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Who here gets $125/month worth of "gifts" from their parents?

If I was making $100K I would not get a $350K mortgage.  My parents made a heck of a lot more than $100K and their mortgage was not even half that size.  Live within your means.

The food stamp moochers get more than that per month gifted to them, tax free, because they don't want to live within their means. How amusing!

Yeah.  He ain't gonna change on his own.

As promised, I'm reporting every post of his that includes the word "leechers" or "moochers."

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Who here gets $125/month worth of "gifts" from their parents?

If I was making $100K I would not get a $350K mortgage.  My parents made a heck of a lot more than $100K and their mortgage was not even half that size.  Live within your means.

The food stamp moochers get more than that per month gifted to them, tax free, because they don't want to live within their means. How amusing!

Yeah.  He ain't gonna change on his own.

As promised, I'm reporting every post of his that includes the word "leechers" or "moochers."

I'm going to report every post with your faux outrage.

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Grumps' post is probably going to get deleted for having a swear word in it, but just know that I didn't report it.

In all seriousness, I know I'm getting more worked up than I should over this, but I think krazen should get what comes to him.

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Looks like krazen's cleaned up his act a bit since getting put on mod review.  Hopefully he gets the message now.

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Wait krazen got put on mod review? When?

After concurring with Ted Nugent that Obama was a "subhuman mongrel."