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Kevin
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« on: August 11, 2007, 05:05:35 PM »
« edited: August 11, 2007, 07:01:14 PM by Kevin »

I've been reading Pat Buchanan's State of Emergency and the in the book he makes several points trying to explain that some within the Mexican Goverment are trying to undermine America's Southwest because they view it as their territory so they are going about trying to do this by encourging  illegal immigration so they can seperate the American Southwest through cultural and economic means. So after looking around I think Pat Buchanan may be on to something. He also said that Mexico is attepting to undermine America's soverignity in the Southwest like France attempted to do to Canada over Quebec by viewing it as lost territory?

Any opinions on this claim?   

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Kevin
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2007, 07:01:49 PM »

I didn't know that France was actively supporting the Parti Quebecois thirty years ago. Roll Eyes

They were at least providing moral support.
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Kevin
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2007, 07:20:45 PM »

Which, apart from Charles de Gaulle standing on the balcony and shouting "Vive le Quebec libre!" (which was just posturing), amounts to nothing. So that analogy (which is presumably mentioned in the book), falls flat.

Still even that is a significant thing to do.
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Kevin
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2007, 10:03:41 PM »

Yes, it is a stated policy from the Mexican government to "retake" the southwest.

Do we have any proof of this? I can certainly see where Buchanan coming from since in Mexico ads are ran on TV on how to sneak into the United States.   
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Kevin
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2007, 01:38:04 PM »

Words without action, even from a Head of State, are meaningless. If France ever recognized Quebec as an independent nation and established diplomatic relations with some type of "government in exile", that'd be a notable action, but they never did so. And "moral support" amounts to nothing in politics.

And even if some Mexican government document from years ago states that as official policy (which I'm still not believing without real proof), it doesn't necessarily mean anything. I believe it wasn't until the late 90s that the Republic of Ireland formally dropped their claim to Northern Ireland, but for decades earlier the vast majority of the public wanted nothing to do with Northern Ireland, and the government never took any serious action toward taking it over, which is perfectly understandable as there's no reason to believe either the residents or government of a rather peaceful and serene country would want to annex a troublesome province full of constant car bombs and gun battles that became an economic black hole as a result.

Also taking Pat Buchanan seriously is just, well, tough to describe but easy to understand.

They did back up words with some action as the French consulate in Quebec City began to serve as a de facto embassy to the Provincial Government of Quebec.
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Kevin
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2007, 11:53:28 AM »

This thread is nothing short of hilarity. But it's nothing suprising, though.

How is this hilarious?
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Kevin
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2007, 02:18:58 PM »

This thread is nothing short of hilarity. But it's nothing suprising, though.

How is this hilarious?
Cause it's bull?

Yeah it is a little over the wall? For a second there I though you were making fun of me or something?
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