Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread**

[Devout Centrist]

Here's a definition no one here has probably ever seen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_economy

A mixed economy is not socialism. Socialism is not communism. Capitalism is not corporatism.

Look, this is a pretty minor issue. Aspects of the State are funded by all in a system that has similarities to socialism. That does not make the State socialist if it has a publicly funded police force or educational system, to name a couple of examples. Socialism is the State controlling the means of production. Capitalism is private individuals controlling the means of production. A mixed economy has elements of both. End of discussion.

[Devout Centrist]

But then again, sometimes any random person off the street can become a professor and still not fully grasp what they have studied.

Nice edit. Unlike you, though, I have actually studied

I talk circles around people like you on a regular basis, including a political science professor who worked for Lawton Chiles. I've written a novel, run for office, served on two appointed committees (state and local) and I've helping to advise two political campaigns. Thanks for playing.

This isn't an ethos contest, dammit.

Ethos or egos?

Gentlemen, this is an English-language forum. Let us use the language correctly.

May as well be both, why not?

Has either of one discussed "ethos"? I mean, there has, lately, been some scatological discussion here, but that does not imply we have moved towards eschatology, has it?

Well I feel like the world's ending.

[Devout Centrist]

Here's a definition no one here has probably ever seen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_economy

A mixed economy is not socialism. Socialism is not communism. Capitalism is not corporatism.

Look, this is a pretty minor issue. Aspects of the State are funded by all in a system that has similarities to socialism. That does not make the State socialist if it has a publicly funded police force or educational system, to name a couple of examples. Socialism is the State controlling the means of production. Capitalism is private individuals controlling the means of production. A mixed economy has elements of both. End of discussion.

But even that's not correct.  Socialism is defined by democratic control of the economy or decision-making powers of industry belonging to workers.  Capitalism is defined by decisions being made by the owners of capital and factors of production.

Not all socialism advocates democratic workplaces, though. All the catch all phrase advocates is the State and the community managing the means of production, which has multiple interpretations. This has lead to different socialist philosophies.

[Devout Centrist]

I'm not sure if some Sanders delegates realize that this isn't a contested convention, so they might throw a fit if that happens. As we saw during the primaries, many of them were not well versed on the rules.

It'll be a small minority, similar to so called "social justice warriors".

[Devout Centrist]

There's some uproar about an all-gender bathrooms at the DNC. I won't be so comfortable in an all gender bathroom.

http://nypost.com/2016/07/26/dnc-creates-a-gender-neutral-bathroom-for-attendees/

I really don't see why you wouldn't feel safe.

[Devout Centrist]

John Lewis? Oh wow.

Derisively referred to as "Play-Doh Face" by my BernieBro friends, one of whom is a delegate in that arena tonight.

Whoever says that about him is a disgrace.

I wanted to strangle the BernieBros that called him Uncle Tom.

Black people = low information voters *nod*

[Devout Centrist]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4ud1e0/2016_democratic_national_convention_coverage/

Whining children.

[Devout Centrist]

Poor Biden and Kerry. This could have been their moment if Clinton was indicted.

Kerry had his chance, Biden blew his.

[Devout Centrist]

SPEAK ENGLISH

HABLA ESPAÑOL

[Devout Centrist]

Vermont... passes?

They want all of the states to go first before Sanders calls for Clinton to be nominated by acclimation.

[Devout Centrist]

Poor Biden and Kerry. Their careers are ending.

Again, both of them had their chances.

[Devout Centrist]

Clinton is a good orator. He's one of the best orators (next to Obama).

When it comes to rhetoric and campaigning, the Clinton's are similar to George Foreman. Obama is a rhetorical Muhammad Ali.

[Devout Centrist]

Contrast this speech to all of those from Trump family members last week. 

Bill does have 30 extra years of marriage to talk about.

I missed the speech. Did he mention how he got his d**k sucked by an intern? Or how he slept with Gennifer Flowers? Or how Barbara Streisand is on the persona non grata list at the White House because the former Horn Dog-in-Chief allegedly screwed her while Hillary was gone?

When you're in an open relationship none of that matters.

[Devout Centrist]

Contrast this speech to all of those from Trump family members last week. 

Bill does have 30 extra years of marriage to talk about.

I missed the speech. Did he mention how he got his d**k sucked by an intern? Or how he slept with Gennifer Flowers? Or how Barbara Streisand is on the persona non grata list at the White House because the former Horn Dog-in-Chief allegedly screwed her while Hillary was gone?

When you're in an open relationship none of that matters.

1.Funny, I missed the memo about an "open relationship." And Hillary! was allegedly pissed after the Streisand incident, IIRC.

2.Sorry Bill vouching for Hill is like Baghdad Bob telling me there were no troops in Iraq as we were watching them drive in on TV. Zero credibility.

1.One can be mad at a lack of discretion, no? As a chief whip, you can chew a man out for being caught with a prostitute even though you're not his spouse.

2.To which I say, "Seriously?"

[Devout Centrist]

1.One can be mad at a lack of discretion, no? As a chief whip, you can chew a man out for being caught with a prostitute even though you're not his spouse.

I haven't taken the time to compliment you on your sig, btw.

You think it's good? Hm.

You might think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

[Devout Centrist]

1.One can be mad at a lack of discretion, no? As a chief whip, you can chew a man out for being caught with a prostitute even though you're not his spouse.

I haven't taken the time to compliment you on your sig, btw.

You think it's good? Hm.

You might think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

FU's rise is the story of Emperor Palpatine that George Lucas should have told.

Lucas never could've come up with that on his own. It would've been so much better.