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« on: July 30, 2016, 12:18:27 PM »

If a country brings in many low level immigrants, and then gives them more in benefits than they pay in taxes, how can this be sustainable longer term?

Somebody explain how this can be a benefit to the citizens of the USA.
If letting in tens of thousands of low income individuals and then later giving them free health care insurance, education, roads and other benefits, how is this not "taking" from other citizens of the USA who already live here? I'm all for high-skilled immigrants, but isn't this getting insane when politicians are willing to sell out the country for votes?
Oh boy...

1. Clinton does not support open borders
2. There's no welfare state in the US
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2016, 12:32:07 PM »

Either you don't know what 'Open Borders' means, or don't  know Clinton's position on immigration.
I support a transition to open borders; Hillary Clinton does not support open borders.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2016, 01:08:38 PM »

I like how the Hillary fans won't even respond to you, OP. They can't argue with the truth.

Hillary 100% supports open borders. 550% increase in "refugees" and full amnesty in 100 days. That's open borders and there's no way to ignore that. Disaster!

But we did or is your reading comprehension as bad as your reasoning?

See, just ad hominem. Respond to the facts I presented or just be quiet.

No, it's no an ad hominem. I presented a response by quoting Centrist above, and you just ignored it. You do not understand what "open borders" means or what Hillary is for. Go look at her campaign page, quote it if you find open borders, and get back to us.

Just throwing words and calling them facts doesn't work. Know what you're talking about or be quiet.

Respond to the facts I presented. One more try:

1. Hillary wants 550% increase in "refugees"
2. Hillary wants to grant full amnesty in 100 days.

And this which isn't confirmed but is 99% likely:

3. She will continue Obama's catch and release and shipping of "refugees" in from Central America.


Lol'd at the scare quotes.

1. Cite the numbers. Even so, there's no inherent danger in taking refugees.
2. "Pathway to citizenship" /=/ "full amnesty"
3. Good.
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