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Chancellor Tanterterg
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« on: November 13, 2014, 06:45:19 AM »

Wow. Fresh off passing an avalanche of laws that helped them steal this election (North Carolina specifically), Republicans are already looking forward to stealing the 2016 election.

The GOP won fair and square. What is the lefts issue with voter id laws? Why not address the New Black Panthers engaging in voter intimidation in Philly.

Yeah, because anyone who chooses to live in Philly is definitely afraid of a black guy standing on a street corner.

Maybe JCL means Philadelphia Township, Indiana Tongue
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2014, 01:51:54 PM »
« Edited: November 13, 2014, 02:01:47 PM by Camerlengo X »

In any event, changing to electoral votes by CD would completely blow up in Republicans' faces.  They've already proven perfectly capable of disenfranchising voters in less risky ways such as voter ID laws, having activist judges gut legislation that protects voter's rights and make it easier for people to vote, having those same activist judges rubber-stamp their racial gerrymanders, blocking any legislation that would make it easier for groups that aren't solidly Republican to vote, etc.

The only place worth considering is Michigan.

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If you're a Krazenesque Republican hack whose political short-sightedness is matched only by his shameless lack of respect for the democratic process than I guess I can see why this idea might appeal to you.
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2014, 02:13:39 PM »
« Edited: November 13, 2014, 02:16:25 PM by Camerlengo X »

The only place worth considering is Michigan.

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God forbid the elected officials representing the state of Michigan make a decision on its electoral process. I mean, who gave them the right!

Oh wait...

The thing is we both know you don't support this because you think it'd be good for the democratic process.  You only support it because it would help Republican Presidential candidates get electoral votes from a state that probably won't vote for them and whose CD map is horribly gerrymandered.  You only wanted to do this in Michigan because it checks certain political boxes for you.  If the MI GOP wants to touch a high-profile political third rail, I obviously can't stop them.  But you should at least have the dignity to admit you simply want to rig the election and that your previous post was a crock of s[Inks] designed to distract people from the question of whether Republicans *should* do this by attempting to make it about whether they *can* do this.

One other thing: Why are you so afraid of letting Michigan's voters decide who gets their state's electoral votes?
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2014, 04:11:32 PM »

The only place worth considering is Michigan.

Your concern for the integrity and legitimacy of the Democratic process is an inspiration to us all Roll Eyes
God forbid the elected officials representing the state of Michigan make a decision on its electoral process. I mean, who gave them the right!

Oh wait...

The thing is we both know you don't support this because you think it'd be good for the democratic process.  You only support it because it would help Republican Presidential candidates get electoral votes from a state that probably won't vote for them and whose CD map is horribly gerrymandered.  You only wanted to do this in Michigan because it checks certain political boxes for you.  If the MI GOP wants to touch a high-profile political third rail, I obviously can't stop them.  But you should at least have the dignity to admit you simply want to rig the election and that your previous post was a crock of s[Inks] designed to distract people from the question of whether Republicans *should* do this by attempting to make it about whether they *can* do this.

One other thing: Why are you so afraid of letting Michigan's voters decide who gets their state's electoral votes?
Isn't a proportional representation, rather than a winner take all situation be more democratic?

Depends who draws the district lines and how.  We're not talking about some imaginary universe where district lines are generally drawn to produce fair and/or representative maps.  Surely we can at least agree on that much, no?
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2014, 04:33:39 PM »

The only place worth considering is Michigan.

Your concern for the integrity and legitimacy of the Democratic process is an inspiration to us all Roll Eyes
God forbid the elected officials representing the state of Michigan make a decision on its electoral process. I mean, who gave them the right!

Oh wait...

The thing is we both know you don't support this because you think it'd be good for the democratic process.  You only support it because it would help Republican Presidential candidates get electoral votes from a state that probably won't vote for them and whose CD map is horribly gerrymandered.  You only wanted to do this in Michigan because it checks certain political boxes for you.  If the MI GOP wants to touch a high-profile political third rail, I obviously can't stop them.  But you should at least have the dignity to admit you simply want to rig the election and that your previous post was a crock of s[Inks] designed to distract people from the question of whether Republicans *should* do this by attempting to make it about whether they *can* do this.

One other thing: Why are you so afraid of letting Michigan's voters decide who gets their state's electoral votes?
Isn't a proportional representation, rather than a winner take all situation be more democratic?

Depends who draws the district lines and how.  We're not talking about some imaginary universe where district lines are generally drawn to produce fair and/or representative maps.  Surely we can at least agree on that much, no?
I agree on that, but I was more thinking of percentages, like the new thread on it explains.

And yet none of the red state legislatures are taking up bills like this.  I can't possibly imagine why that might be Roll Eyes  I guess it shouldn't be surprising that the Republicans are trying to pull something like this, they've already made it clear they're fine with disenfranchising voters and trampling on the Constitution to kill any semblance of campaign finance reform, I suppose screwing around with electoral vote allocation in Democratic leaning states is the logical next step.
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