Deeply disturbing (Part Neuf)

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Outofbox is not a councilor, not since, what... June?

lol

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Yeah, I'd like to echo the comments my NE CJO Talleyrand and Senator Bore, the latter of whom's record proves that it is possible to be an excellent Senator while not authoring TNF-levels of legislation.  The truth is that it isn't too hard to tell who the good and active Senators are regardless of the quantity of the laws they author.  For example, I'm pretty sure that all but a tiny handful of people would that agree that Polnut has been a terrific Senator.  By the same token, it is easy to tell when people aren't doing a good job because they either do almost literally nothing once elected or you basically forget they are even Senators

Btw, BK was elected recently enough that there hasn't really been enough time yet to fully evaluate his service in the Senate during this term.  He seems to be reasonably active in the confirmation threads, however.  Cranberry has been rather busy being thrust into the Presidency during the Great Chaos, so he should probably be given the benefit of the doubt (especially since his Presidency was exactly what Atlasia needed when he took office).

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In other words, many Atlasians (presumably including a number of Laborites and Federalists) are so fed up with the corrupt Labor-Federalist duopoly that they aren't blindly voting for anyone their party nominates (or at least are doing so less often).  In what world is that a bad thing?  The most disturbing thing about this is the idea that anyone would be disturbed that The People are voting for candidates based on their merits instead of based on their party affiliation. 

Here's a radical idea for any party bosses who find this disturbing: If you don't like the election results maybe you should spend more time crafting a platform and message that appeal to enough Atlasians for you to develop a winning coalition and less time complaining about how voters aren't mindlessly supporting anyone their party nominates.

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In short I think what we're all saying here is that we'd appreciate constructive criticism as opposed to... concern trolling, the latter of which this rather appears to be.

But remember, Griffin's "retiring" from Atlasia

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

But remember, Griffin's "retiring" from Atlasia

I've always said that I'm retiring from party politics. If you consider this "party politics", then you're sorely mistaken. I'm merely in the same boat as many other people who remained active but no longer had to maintain any elected responsibilities (I'm coining this condition "Napoleon Retirement Syndrome"), in part because I acknowledge that I do not have the time or dedication to give to any elected office right now, and therefore won't seek one. Speaking of retirement, when is your next unscheduled deregistration?

In short I think what we're all saying here is that we'd appreciate constructive criticism as opposed to... concern trolling, the latter of which this rather appears to be.

Oooh, oooh! Let me try:

Do the fycking job you decided to run for in the first place, or get the fyck out of the job. It's not my job to coddle you or tell you to do your job; if anything, it's the people who elected you's responsibility and your own.

With all due respect Adam please don't be such a prick

I spent literally four days straight preparing my girlfriend's grandmother's house for thanksgiving, then there was thanksgiving and black friday, then I was able to spend time with my brother for the first time in a year. It's a holiday- I don't see what I did wrong, especially considering we allow Supreme Court justices to go half a year without posting. I didn't realize it had been a whole week but come on dude who would pick Atlasia over family

Certainly you know better than to say what's in bold there; obviously comparing the two branches in such a way is a terrible and reckless comparison.

And in regards to both Simfan and BK, one must merely ask: how little are others who play the game's free time worth in ya'll's eyes? The assertion that neither of you literally could be bothered to jump in for a week because of holiday stuff and school is, well, a bit much. Practically everyone on here has one or both of those responsibilities right now as well; I suppose had they taken the same approach, the entire game would have just ground to a halt! But this is a recurring issue with both of you, so I frankly take all of this with a grain of salt.

Furthermore (BK), you made a total of 16 posts on the forum during the time in question, including some that would have taken more than just a minute or two to type out. Ditto for Simfan, who made a comparable number of posts during the same time, many in much more detail. I think the reality is that y'all just didn't consider this particular board of much interest.


But those who are guilty of massive and repetitive inactivity (and those who support them) can continue to spend many times more energy attacking me and my motivations as they do apologizing for what they did and addressing the situation if they so choose, and I'll just keep humming along and bringing these transgressions - you know, the ones that actually impact game play more than anything else - to the attention of voters.

For you there's no difference between party politics and involvement in Atlasia, that's always been pretty obvious.  As for my deregistrations, I'm pretty sure you intended that as an attack of some sort, but I'm not really sure what your point is.  One de-registration was due to the fact that I was suffering from depression and didn't have time for Atlasia anymore during that period.  The other two times, I had higher priorities than Atlasia and had to focus on those (yes Griffin, believe it or not every player's life revolves around this game).  I don't see anything wrong with that, but whatever.  Btw, remind me again what your attack had to do with anything...oh right...nothing.  Anyway, you need to find a non-Atlasia hobby.  You might want to go outside or something, you get way too riled up about every little detail of this game.

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The personal attacks on Griffin are uncalled for - and, in any case, I'm confident that he leads a richer and more active life outside of the forum than most of us do. The crux of the problem is not that he is "obsessed", but rather that he is talking out of his ass.

While I didn't mean it as a personal attack, I was annoyed with Griffin when I posted that and looking back, my wording may've been a bit harsher than I intended.  What I mean is that in general Griffin's been seeming to get very riled up about almost every remotely contentious issue relating even tangentially to any member or aspect of Labor.  The constant stream of megaposts (even when much shorter and/or less vitriolic posts would've sufficed) suggests to me (and obviously I'm not Griffin, so who knows, maybe I'm way off with this) that he is getting pretty personally/emotionally invested in even the various events in this game.  When that happens, it can often be quite relaxing and useful to temporarily deregister or even just significantly reduce one's involvement in the game for a month or two.  There's no shame in it, I did it when I deregistered shortly after my arguments with Nix and Napoleon that day made me realize how frustrated I was with the game and that I was starting to take it personally (a sure sign it's time to take a break, IMO).  Ultimately, Griffin knows better than me whether he's at a point where he'd benefit from taking a break from Atlasia for a month or two, I'm just giving my two cents based on what I observed.  I was admittedly kinda dickish in terms of how I said it in my previous post and I apologize for that, but I stand by what I said even though I probably should've said it differently.  That said, this hardly excuses the smears in Griffin's post, but that's a discussion for another day.