The Iron Throne, the V ASOIAF Game (Sign Up - Rules Thread) (Turn Open)

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I would assume this order of support; Blackfish, Edric, Catelyn and then Lysa. It would depend greatly on what the Blackfish did followed by Catelyn; Blackfish knows all about Lysa and readily abandoned her service to serve the Riverlands.

It all rests on the Blackfish, but I think we agree that regardless the Riverlords will splinter in multiple directions.

The Blackfish left Lysa's service to fight the Lannisters   It was the neutrality that he objected to, not Lysa's mental state.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Champing at my frosty bit! Any update on start of new turn?

Hmmmm... I probably need House Tully first. I really don't have the patience for three more pages on Westerosi inheritance law debates.

You could just give it to me

Even Windjammer said he wouldn't object as it was the simplest solution.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Some of the Riverlords should probably go to the North then; just split em I say, itd be unrealistic for all to flop to one or the other. Some may even be undeclared.

Why would they go for Manderly over Lysa?  I really don't see the rationale for that, tbh.  At the very least most (especially Riverrun, Maidenpool, wherever the Blackwoods and Vances reside, and the Freyless Twins) would go for Lysa with a few scattered neutral minor houses.  Let's not forget The Vale did quite a bit to help The Riverlands in this verse, far more than Edmure did tbh.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Some of the Riverlords should probably go to the North then; just split em I say, itd be unrealistic for all to flop to one or the other. Some may even be undeclared.

Why would they go for Manderly over Lysa?  I really don't see the rationale for that, tbh.  At the very least most (especially Riverrun, Maidenpool, wherever the Blackwoods and Vances reside, and the Freyless Twins) would go for Lysa with a few scattered neutral minor houses.  Let's not forget The Vale did quite a bit to help The Riverlands in this verse, far more than Edmure did tbh.

You forget that House Manderly was on the front lines since the red wedding, and House Stark has done far more to help the Riverlands than the Vale which is being led by an unpredictable crazy woman. Which would you choose?

1) You're already dead, I know you want the North to do well, but again, you're dead  

2) House Manderly has done literally nothing for The Riverlands, certainly nothing any RiverLord would care about, especially compared to The Vale

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Some of the Riverlords should probably go to the North then; just split em I say, itd be unrealistic for all to flop to one or the other. Some may even be undeclared.

Why would they go for Manderly over Lysa?  I really don't see the rationale for that, tbh.  At the very least most (especially Riverrun, Maidenpool, wherever the Blackwoods and Vances reside, and the Freyless Twins) would go for Lysa with a few scattered neutral minor houses.  Let's not forget The Vale did quite a bit to help The Riverlands in this verse, far more than Edmure did tbh.

You forget that House Manderly was on the front lines since the red wedding, and House Stark has done far more to help the Riverlands than the Vale which is being led by an unpredictable crazy woman. Which would you choose?

1) You're already dead, I know you want the North to do well, but again, you're dead  

2) House Manderly has done literally nothing for The Riverlands, certainly nothing any RiverLord would care about, especially compared to The Vale

3) What I mentioned in my initial post seems like a reasonable worst case scenario for Lysa (who would have the support of The Blackfish and whom no one knows is crazy).

4) Btw, if Riverlands power really is as weak as you say, what's the big deal if I feel pretty strongly about this and even Windjammer indicated giving them to The Vale was the simplist solution.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Okay, never done one of these before, but Lumine's games are always the bomb. So, I am going to join as the Blackfish (assuming it's open). Thanks!

Problem solved!

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

By the way guys I'm curious, Cersei is obviously now irrelevant but let's imagine she wasn't.
How would she react about Aegon ? I mean he's the son of someone she deeply loved but as well the son of Lyanna someone she hated.

She didn't deeply love Rhaegar, so...I'm guessing hated.  I also dispute the notion that Cersei ever truly loved anyone other than herself, but that's another matter.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Hmm...

There is certainly much left to roll with going forward. There is a lot of manpower to be spent. In several ways it's the most interesting game we've had. Then again there are only 6 real claimants to the IT; Aegon, Edric, Tommen, Shireen, Rhaego, and Myrcella. If you can give us another two rounds after this one, I'll take over as host.

But you have to take House Martell

Assuming I live much longer of course.

I agree with this plan

This except Lumine can't be House Martell as he knows everyone's moves.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

You were allowed to switch from mod to Roose Bolton in ATFS. I say if Lumine wanted to play as Martell he can but only beginning w the first turn that Leo moderates.

He should begin the second turn Leo moderates (that's what I had to do IIRC).

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I'm cool with whatever you guys want to do.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Huh.  Well that was unexpected, to say the least.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I'm really sorry to hear that, I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers!