Will Democrats ever be happy?

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Now let's give two scenarios
1. Bush apologises for using false pretexts to go to war, and sets a pullout timeline to bring the troops home from the war.  He shamefully admits that he's wrong.

thats like Hitler pulling out of all countries half way through WWII and apologizing. Would you all of the sudden be happy with him? of course not! This is a scenario where sorry isnt enough IMO

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love how my topic gets diverted to something else[/sarcasm]

My point is, for those partisan hacks: If George Bush tomorrow, did a complete 180 on most everything, removed our troops from Iraq and apologized, repealed the Patriot Act, put funding into stem cell research, became pro-choice, started 35 different social programs to help the poor, college students, the elderly and city dwellers, turned the pork barrel funding to help the 'blue states', tried firing Cheney and replacing him with Russ Feingold, confiscated our guns, raised taxes on the rich, paid off the deficit with it, and tried to start a national health care system, while backing off the the Social Security issue....  Why would you still hate him?  (I know this would never happen)  But my point is, why are the attacks on him personal?  Even if he could change, you'd still hate him and not his policies.  Why?

its tough to forgive someone who killed so many people for a dumb cause. It would be good if he pulled out tomorrow, but that wont bring back those that are dead. and i WOULD hate him for confiscating all guns. that would be idiotic.and that many social programs would put the government back in debt in just a few years. So that'd be another bad move. Although the Universial Healthcare would be nice. (but we'll get that in 08 with our new president and new senate )

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okay, as far as gun control goes, it's talked about as a liberal issue (liberals wanting it).  It seems like two liberals counter that example.  Still I wonder how jfern reacts to this. 

My point is that people shouldn't take someone who opposed their ideology personally.  You sitting at your computer, hating Bush all the while isn't going to change anything, and negativity turns people off to listening to you.  I mean when I talk about politics, I  try talking about how much better life would be in general if government just got off our backs.  However, getting stuck on one issue (namely Bush in this case) is one that makes the party look like they're whinning and it's not really helping anything.  Using persuasion to win people over is really the best way to go.

while talking to others that arent forum people (because they clearly know what they believe in. otherwise they wouldnt be here) i do use alot less negativity. and when i am negative, i tend to talk about the party in general, not just Bush. lthough the party has its good people (McCain, Chafee, Snowe are a few)