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Poll
Question: Who would you vote for?
#1
Leung Chun-ying (I-inc)
 
#2
John Tsang Chun-wah  (I)
 
#3
Regina Ip Lau Suk-yee (NPP)
 
#4
Jasper Tsang Yok-sing (DAB)
 
#5
Antony Leung Kam-chung (I)
 
#6
Audrey Eu (CP)
 
#7
Alan Leong Kah-kit (CP)
 
#8
James To (DP)
 
#9
Raymond Wong Yuk-man (I/PPI)
 
#10
Woo Kwok-hing (I)
 
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Partisan results

Total Voters: 7

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Lord Halifax
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« on: January 16, 2017, 07:28:35 AM »

Any left wingers and/or socialists in the pro-Beijing camp?
At this stage, no.
TBH, I'm actually a hardcore pro-Beijing socialist advocate, and I would strongly oppose a John Tsang candidacy - he is a old financial guard who has a big mouth, more said than done. No tax rebates, bureaucracy ensues, prompting himself to be a popular contender...heck, no more electoral tactics please.
My wordings might be harsh, and John Tsang somewhat kindly receives public grievances - however, I need to spell out the truth. He is a good listener, but a horrible doer.

Have there even been leftists of the pro-Beijing. regard?

I completely agree with you. What about the Hong Kong Federation of Trade Unions.

I believe that all ares of china (hongkong, tibet), are better off under one china, hopefully under socialism.


Tibet isn't China. Its a nation in its own right.
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Lord Halifax
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2017, 10:08:25 AM »

Any left wingers and/or socialists in the pro-Beijing camp?
At this stage, no.
TBH, I'm actually a hardcore pro-Beijing socialist advocate, and I would strongly oppose a John Tsang candidacy - he is a old financial guard who has a big mouth, more said than done. No tax rebates, bureaucracy ensues, prompting himself to be a popular contender...heck, no more electoral tactics please.
My wordings might be harsh, and John Tsang somewhat kindly receives public grievances - however, I need to spell out the truth. He is a good listener, but a horrible doer.

Have there even been leftists of the pro-Beijing. regard?

I completely agree with you. What about the Hong Kong Federation of Trade Unions.

I believe that all ares of china (hongkong, tibet), are better off under one china, hopefully under socialism.


Tibet isn't China. Its a nation in its own right.

No.

Its the homeland of the Tibetan people, a people with a distinct culture, history and language, so of course its a nation. Tibetans aren't Chinese, simple as that.
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Lord Halifax
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2017, 10:19:30 AM »

There is something immature about Chinese nationalism. The insistence that any area that once belonged to China has to belong to it again. That no minority population within the state has the right to independence, even if they are the majority (or historic majority) within their ancestral homeland. Hopefully China will gradually develop and mature on this area and start recognizing the right of small nations to self-determination (a central principle in international law for a century).
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Lord Halifax
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2017, 10:34:06 AM »


For Lord Halifax, I respect your opinion on the soverignty of Tibet, but I could not agree with it.


Why? Apart from the arbitrary "it was part of the empire, so it has to be Chinese", there isn't any legitimate reasons why an alien people with a clearly separate culture and language should be under Chinese rule. You might as well say Algeria should be French, or Finland become Russian.

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