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Lakigigar
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« on: May 11, 2019, 08:18:25 AM »

Without hindsight

1950: Clement Attlee (Labour)
1951: Clement Attlee (Labour)
1955: Clement Attlee (Labour)

1959: Hugh Gaitskell (Labour)
1964: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1966: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1970: Harold Wilson (Labour)
Feb 1974: Harold Wilson (Labour)
Oct 1974: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1979: James Callaghan (Labour)
1983: Michael Foot (Labour)
1987: Neil Kinnock (Labour)
1992: Neil Kinnock (Labour)
1997: Tony Blair (Labour)
2001: Tony Blair (Labour)

2005: Arthur Scargill (Socialist Labour)
2010: David Cameron (Conservative)
2015: David Cameron (Conservative)

2017: Jeremy Corbyn (Labour)
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LAKISYLVANIA
Lakigigar
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Posts: 15,854
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Political Matrix
E: -7.42, S: -4.78

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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2019, 04:59:29 AM »

Without hindsight

1950: Clement Attlee (Labour)
1951: Clement Attlee (Labour)
1955: Clement Attlee (Labour)

1959: Hugh Gaitskell (Labour)
1964: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1966: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1970: Harold Wilson (Labour)
Feb 1974: Harold Wilson (Labour)
Oct 1974: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1979: James Callaghan (Labour)
1983: Michael Foot (Labour)
1987: Neil Kinnock (Labour)
1992: Neil Kinnock (Labour)
1997: Tony Blair (Labour)
2001: Tony Blair (Labour)

2005: Arthur Scargill (Socialist Labour)
2010: David Cameron (Conservative)
2015: David Cameron (Conservative)

2017: Jeremy Corbyn (Labour)

Huh

Cameron wasn't that bad after all, and the Labour challengers had nothing to offer, i guess in 2010 and 2015. Why would I vote for Brown or Milliband, i don't know. I might have abstained though or vote for a perrenial third party, i don't know.
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LAKISYLVANIA
Lakigigar
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Political Matrix
E: -7.42, S: -4.78

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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2019, 11:35:02 AM »
« Edited: May 12, 2019, 11:39:51 AM by Lakigigar »

I just don't know honestly, might just have abstained... Corbyn and Tony Benn, Attlee and MacDonald are the only ones i would have turned out enthusiastically for. I just see no reason to vote for centrist Labourites like Blair and Brown who did anything but help the working class (and in case of Blair even made war crimes), like what's the difference between Blair and Cameron or Blair and Reagan. I honestly don't know.

And centrists sometimes aren't better than right-wing candidates... See Macron. I honestly think Marine Le Pen would be better for the working class in France. I might've supported Macron once, but now i'm leaning towards Le Pen if the second round is repeated. We already know what we get if we vote for centrists and it's horrible, why not give the right a chance. At least economically they're better candidates, and all i care about is working class interests economically and the environment (and maybe some social policies).

I know more from US politics than UK politics although, that might explain the weird voting pattern. I don't know Milliband and a lot of the other past Labour candidates i voted for.
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Lakigigar
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Political Matrix
E: -7.42, S: -4.78

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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2019, 10:52:42 AM »

1950: Clement Attlee (Labour)
1951: Clement Attlee (Labour)
1955: Clement Attlee (Labour)

1959: Hugh Gaitskell (Labour)
1964: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1966: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1970: Harold Wilson (Labour)
Feb 1974: Harold Wilson (Labour)
Oct 1974: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1979: James Callaghan (Labour)
1983: Michael Foot (Labour)
1987: Neil Kinnock (Labour)
1992: Neil Kinnock (Labour)
1997: Tony Blair (Labour)
2001: Tony Blair (Labour)

2005: Abstain
2010: Abstain
2015: Abstain
2017: Jeremy Corbyn (Labour)

Well here you go... I did read about Scargill, was misinformed indeed yes...
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