United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership

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This result is a reason to rejoice for all freedom loving people.

Why then you, a hater of freedom, join in?

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Manchester 60.4 IN

On an under 60% turnout.

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Congratulations to all those who are no doubt delighted: Putin shills, PRC bots, trots, fascists, Nazis, reprobates, people who plan on being dead in the next year, anti-Semites etc

LOL!

Rrrrrrrule Britannia!

I dislike the idea someone like you who despises our country is singing Rule Britainia.

Well, this is just a historic song, referring to something that no longer exists. I mean, who cares if you joke about Sumer and Akkad?

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This result is a reason to rejoice for all freedom loving people.

Yeah, 4 years of continued austerity, a stagnant economy at best, continued cuts to social services, and a weakened currency are really something to rejoice about as long as you get to say f_ck you to immigrants.


I wonder who the Leave voters will blame in several years when things don't get much better.

give me death!

I have no doubt you will get your wish soon. I just object to you imposing it on the rest of us.

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Does it mean anything that the margin has been narrowing again?

Nothing, really. Big chunks of Remain land have come in, and they barely moved the margin at all.

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I wonder who the Leave voters will blame in several years when things don't get much better.

who do you think

I genuinely wonder what the answer of this question would be.

Ah, they will blame the vile "elites", foreigners, globalizers and whomever. That never changes.

For those who read Spanish

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The margin is 422K. No way it closes.

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15 000 Euros lands you a flat in Thessaloniki,

You want that to be the price of a flat in Westminster?

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Everyone cheering for economic destruction is hilarious utterly depressing.

Pound is the lowest it's been since 1985.

It will be great for tourism.

You realize they will not be able to afford to buy our stuff anymore right?

You do realize that the Pound is still stronger than the Dollar, right?  They'll be ok.

Framed. F in principles of Macro.

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Plymouth at 60% leave. Makes me feel like it's over.

It has been over for a while.

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15 000 Euros lands you a flat in Thessaloniki,

You want that to be the price of a flat in Westminster?

Why not? At least everybody will be able to afford it.

It is 15,000 euro. Every German will be able to afford it.

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Everyone cheering for economic destruction is hilarious utterly depressing.

Pound is the lowest it's been since 1985.

It will be great for tourism.

You realize they will not be able to afford to buy our stuff anymore right?

You do realize that the Pound is still stronger than the Dollar, right?  They'll be ok.

Framed. F in principles of Macro.

Well, good thing you don't have to be an economist to vote in the referendum!  It's about what the people want, not what the elites want.  Sorry the world doesn't bend to your will.

Sure. Couldn´t agree more fully. "Elites", BTW, will be, relatively, fine. It is the common folk that will suffer and die. But then, again, they wanted it. Perhaps they are doing all that just to kill their mother-in-law.

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15 000 Euros lands you a flat in Thessaloniki,

You want that to be the price of a flat in Westminster?

Why not? At least everybody will be able to afford it.

It is 15,000 euro. Every German will be able to afford it.

EURO will be abolished by then.

Ok, DeutscheMarks. Germans will still be able to afford it. Doubt, though, about many British non-Royals.

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Should I start the "2018 UK EU Referendum Mark 2.0" thread yet?

Why not start an early general election thread, and a Conservative Party leader one at that.  One of those things will happen by the end of the month, and I hope the other could happen as well.

Both should. At this point, general election with new party leaders is the only decent thing to do.

And, of course, the new Scottish referendum thread should be started today.

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Birmingham, England's second city, has gone for Leave with a majority of 3,000 votes according to ITV

Hillarious.

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Many people have this feeling: we cant go on in this direction.

Well, you know the other direction. It was tried back in the 1930s.

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The EU will go into the same trash heap as the League of Nations.  Total failure!

Yeah, and when the League of Nations failed, everyone lived happily thereafter.

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Everyone cheering for economic destruction is hilarious utterly depressing.

Pound is the lowest it's been since 1985.

It will be great for tourism.

You realize they will not be able to afford to buy our stuff anymore right?

You do realize that the Pound is still stronger than the Dollar, right?  They'll be ok.

Framed. F in principles of Macro.

Well, good thing you don't have to be an economist to vote in the referendum!  It's about what the people want, not what the elites want.  Sorry the world doesn't bend to your will.

Oh, you must've been one of those kids who refused to wear his retainer or rubber bands during his braces phase, because you didn't want to, but once your teeth started shifting you started complaining again.

But the dentist was an "elitist" for going to school and knowing what he is actually talking about

Judging by your logic, you should shutup and never talk to me about politics again.  I have a political science degree!  I am the elite, I know what I'm talking about!

Who gave you that degree? I will talk to him/her. They will be ashamed.

At least, never talk about economics.

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Should I start the "2018 UK EU Referendum Mark 2.0" thread yet?

Why not start an early general election thread, and a Conservative Party leader one at that.  One of those things will happen by the end of the month, and I hope the other could happen as well.

Both should. At this point, general election with new party leaders is the only decent thing to do.

And, of course, the new Scottish referendum thread should be started today.

...which leads to the Irish Reunification referendum thread...

Wow, the UK is becoming Yugoslavia without the bullets.

Let us pray, it is without hte bullets. I would not bet on that.

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The EU will go into the same trash heap as the League of Nations.  Total failure!

Yeah, and when the League of Nations failed, everyone lived happily thereafter.

The world has changed. Monarchies are far off in the past.

And how many monarchies were there in the League of Nations?

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The EU will go into the same trash heap as the League of Nations.  Total failure!

Yeah, and when the League of Nations failed, everyone lived happily thereafter.

It was a failed project, which needed to be scrapped so that something better could be built in its stead.

And the world enjoyed the scrapping process immensely.

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Sinn Fein calling for an Irish Reunification Referendum now.

Great!

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The EU will go into the same trash heap as the League of Nations.  Total failure!

Yeah, and when the League of Nations failed, everyone lived happily thereafter.

Perhaps this will make people reluctant to support multinational superstates in the future.

Unfortunately, people seem unwilling to learn from history,

The League of Nations was a multilateral superstate, I am ballet dancer, and elephant is an insect.

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The EU will go into the same trash heap as the League of Nations.  Total failure!

Yeah, and when the League of Nations failed, everyone lived happily thereafter.

It was a failed project, which needed to be scrapped so that something better could be built in its stead.

And the world enjoyed the scrapping process immensely.

It's the end result that counts.

So, I trust, you are a firm supporter of the UN.

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Sinn Fein calling for an Irish Reunification Referendum now.

Great!

Wow, sad that you are gleeful over the prospect of the return of the Troubles.  That would no doubt lead to thousands of deaths! Tread lightly.

The Troubles are extremely likely at this point irrespective of what happens. Referendum might be the least bloody way out. Or do you really think people in Ulster will go for the reimposed frontier controls with the Republic?