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« on: July 06, 2015, 06:28:24 PM »

If we want to classify Vladimir Putin in the left-right scale, we should consider him a right-wing, both on economic and social issues.

But on foreign policy, he is close to Raul Castro, Maduro and Tsipras.

As well as pretty much every neofascist party in Europe. He is a rabble-rouser. Not much ideology anywhere.
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2015, 12:31:37 PM »

Despite my own inclinations (as a nationalist American/Anglophile), I believe that Putin is the best thing for Russia. They are simply not of a disposition to be capable of carrying out western-style democracy. It would be (and was) senseless to think it could be forced. They need to evolve socially at their own pace

Yeah, those semi-human Russian Neanderthals need a good stick, or else they will revert to being cannibals.

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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2015, 02:09:12 PM »

We're I not wary of invoking Godwin I would replace "Russia" with "Germany" and "Putin" with "you know who" in John's post...

Equating Putin with Adolf Hitler is completely asinine and implies a complete lack of knowledge and understanding of the geopolitical situation, both now and in the past.

No more so than posting the bull about Russia you just did in this thread.
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2015, 04:54:17 PM »

We're I not wary of invoking Godwin I would replace "Russia" with "Germany" and "Putin" with "you know who" in John's post...

Equating Putin with Adolf Hitler is completely asinine and implies a complete lack of knowledge and understanding of the geopolitical situation, both now and in the past.

No more so than posting the bull about Russia you just did in this thread.

I'm not the one who evoked a dictator

Which is not saying much.
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2015, 12:15:24 AM »

Well, as a Russian living now in Moscow i will say that Putin (regretfully) is really an ideal candidate for vast majority of Russian electorate. Not for me (i never voted for him and don't intend to), but for big majority - sure. In fact - he is even slightly more "pro-western" then most people here (you have only to know Russian, and listen to the "political talk" in Moscow area buses - and you will be convinced..). There is an extremely strong anti-West propaganda in Russian mass media in the last couple of years, and, as a result - about 25% of population changed their political stripes: if 2 years ago Putin's rating usually stood at about 60 - 40, now it's routinely something about 85 - 15

Do you really think, it would be that hard to convert this into 15:85?
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2015, 10:09:24 AM »
« Edited: July 10, 2015, 10:11:30 AM by ag »

Well, as a Russian living now in Moscow i will say that Putin (regretfully) is really an ideal candidate for vast majority of Russian electorate. Not for me (i never voted for him and don't intend to), but for big majority - sure. In fact - he is even slightly more "pro-western" then most people here (you have only to know Russian, and listen to the "political talk" in Moscow area buses - and you will be convinced..). There is an extremely strong anti-West propaganda in Russian mass media in the last couple of years, and, as a result - about 25% of population changed their political stripes: if 2 years ago Putin's rating usually stood at about 60 - 40, now it's routinely something about 85 - 15

Do you really think, it would be that hard to convert this into 15:85?

Yes. Because opposition will not get a mass media in monopol use for couple of years anytime soon. And this is a precondition for it... In Gorbachev's time all mass media worked on improving western image in minds of "soviet people" for years and it's began to have effect only after 2-3 years...

Just switch the towers off Smiley

When we come to power, we shall switch all Russian TV to porn broadcast on 24-7 basis Smiley

You thought you could get away from the Russian conversation style on this forum, didn't you? Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2015, 10:41:34 AM »


Anyway, switching Russian TV to round-the-clock porn would be a big improvement. Especially the prime-time gay porn shows: might even solve the problem of employment for Mr. Milonov Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2015, 10:43:31 AM »

Smolt, what does

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Mean? Are you some sort of CIA mole in Moscow placing secret codes in web forums? I hope you are.

Smilin styles vary across countries.
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2015, 09:23:57 AM »

If we want to classify Vladimir Putin in the left-right scale, we should consider him a right-wing, both on economic and social issues.

But on foreign policy, he is close to Raul Castro, Maduro and Tsipras.

This is only because he's very close to every leader who hates either the US or/and EU. Every single one of them. He absolutely adores to hate the US and EU (as well as NATO).

Not quite every leader. He's not a fan of ISIS.

Even with his strong anti-Americanism it's difficult to be a big fan of ISIL....

Oh, he would not have minded them, if not for certain domestic issues Smiley
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