Trump Has Complete Authority to Order Nuclear Attack

[SoLongAtlas]

Hell no per his operational authority as CINC. This move to take it away is BLATANTLY unconstitutional. Trump or not, POTUS is still CINC. What happens if Congress is taken out and no one is there to vote? Fn dumb-wits.

[SoLongAtlas]

There hasn't been a nuclear strike since '45 because the USA and the USSR/RF have been operating per MAD. MAD doesn't apply to a rogue, unpredictable state like NK.

[SoLongAtlas]

There hasn't been a nuclear strike since '45 because the USA and the USSR/RF have been operating per MAD. MAD doesn't apply to a rogue, unpredictable state like NK.

Absolutely.

But there are other methods of preemption against NK than using nukes.

The president's boasts are of a madman willing to sacrifice millions of lives (or even billions--as well as the planet) for the sake of his ego.

I think Trump is getting at if we have to do a retaliatory strike of Kim orders a strike on Guam. The US won't use a nuke in a first strike capacity but would keep the bombers sufficiently armed in case we have to use it on say his bunkers, missile sites, etc.

I wasn't inferring the only way to stop NK is by using nukes, just on the escalation of force part.

[SoLongAtlas]

No order, if given by POTUS, would be refused by the military, esp. a nuclear strike (esp. retaliatory). If it was refused, the OIC refusing said order would be removed from command and held for court martial on refusing a lawful order from the CINC.

[SoLongAtlas]

There hasn't been a nuclear strike since '45 because the USA and the USSR/RF have been operating per MAD. MAD doesn't apply to a rogue, unpredictable state like NK.

There's a problem with this logic though that there isn't any objective definition of a "rogue, unpredictable state." When the Soviet Union was involved in the Cuban missile crisis, the outcome for that situation was pretty much by all accounts far from predictable. I'm not saying that it's impossible that North Korea might do something, but it's not like that's something new in world history. Plus, there are some pretty good arguments analyzing North Korea's history to suggest that they have actually acted rationally from their point of view.

Point taken with the CMC but even then the Soviets wouldn't jump from 0 to 100 like DPRK does on a frequent basis. A country that orders an op review for an enveloping fire attack because of actions of another state that "gets on its nerves" is not a rational state. I uploaded NK's official statement from the news source, image below.

[SoLongAtlas]

I would add that even the Soviets didn't put out bs like that. Krushchev said "we will crush you" but he meant economically and that isn't as bad as the frequent nonsense/half-serious statements put out by the KPA or NK State News.

[SoLongAtlas]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump  39 minutes ago
 Military solutions are now fully in place,locked and loaded,should North Korea act unwisely.  Hopefully Kim Jong Un will find another path!

Giving KJU the final warning.